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RE: annoyed at PFBC
2012/02/09 23:09:11
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wow, talk about cold the pot calling the kettle black.
Awww, thanks man! After all this time, you still look for any chance to make a lame jab at my posts wherever you can find them. It's flattering. Never stop.  Cold is STILL the man. Pahahaha! Forgot all about that! Join the Cult of Karp. To enter you must sacrifice 13 Steelhead to represent the 13 days of the carps spawn, then drain the blood 25 Channel Cats and 65 trout (TROUT MUST COME FROM TWIN LAKES OR THIS WILL NOT BE PROPER) into a kool whip bowl and keep it in your freezer to keep all fish except for the carp away from your rigs, and drink a bottle of "the cheap wine" and eat a whole loaf of bread to represent the blood and bread of Karpfenex.  Cool Hwip?
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RE: annoyed at PFBC
2012/02/09 23:13:02
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just the facts ma'am, just the facts. just 
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RE: annoyed at PFBC
2012/02/10 02:08:23
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PFBC plans to reavaluate all streams by 2014 to determine what bodies if water are capable of holding trout year round, and then work to maintain those with fingerling stockings. Other streams will most likely be stocked but its put and take and I'm pumped for march 10th that's when most DALO streams get stocked. Already called off the 11th
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RE: annoyed at PFBC
2012/02/10 08:22:28
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PFBC plans to reavaluate all streams by 2014 to determine what bodies if water are capable of holding trout year round, and then work to maintain those with fingerling stockings. Other streams will most likely be stocked but its put and take and I'm pumped for march 10th that's when most DALO streams get stocked. Already called off the 11th
Basically, they just get smaller fish stocked in the "real trout streams". That's going to make a lot of people happy, catching 4" fish. It's a moot point, by 2014, our water friendly state leaders will be sure that no bodies of water are capable of holding trout year round.
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RE: annoyed at PFBC
2012/02/10 09:34:40
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PFBC plans to reavaluate all streams by 2014 to determine what bodies if water are capable of holding trout year round, and then work to maintain those with fingerling stockings. Other streams will most likely be stocked but its put and take and I'm pumped for march 10th that's when most DALO streams get stocked. Already called off the 11th
While I personally wouldn't mind that, I don't see it happening. The PFBC makes their money off the guys that buy a $30 license + rtout stamp, fish two days a year, and that's it. A move like that would improve the enjoyment for only about 5-10% of license buyers who actively pursued the fish year-round. I'd love to see them immediately cut off all stocking on any stream where wild brookies might be able to hold their own, but again, that doesn't sit well with the 2-weekend warriors.
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RE: annoyed at PFBC
2012/02/10 09:43:09
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If you are going to stock, char and only char. Please, no trout.
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RE: annoyed at PFBC
2012/02/10 10:09:48
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PFBC plans to reavaluate all streams by 2014 to determine what bodies if water are capable of holding trout year round, and then work to maintain those with fingerling stockings. Other streams will most likely be stocked but its put and take and I'm pumped for march 10th that's when most DALO streams get stocked. Already called off the 11th
While I personally wouldn't mind that, I don't see it happening. The PFBC makes their money off the guys that buy a $30 license + rtout stamp, fish two days a year, and that's it. A move like that would improve the enjoyment for only about 5-10% of license buyers who actively pursued the fish year-round. I'd love to see them immediately cut off all stocking on any stream where wild brookies might be able to hold their own, but again, that doesn't sit well with the 2-weekend warriors.
While that is true, the PFBC has a real problem with the decaying hatcheries in this state. They are massive polluters due to their overcrowding of fish. DEP has let them slide for several years, that will eventually end. They need millions of $ to fix several hatcheries. Options are: Close some of them - result less trout. Raise less adult trout - result less trout Stock fewer streams/lakes - result less trout. Stock more fingerlings where they could survive - result temporarily less adult trout. Fix the hatcheries - No money available. Stop stocking over wild fish and in waters that can't support trout - the best long term solution, IMO.
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RE: annoyed at PFBC
2012/02/10 10:21:54
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Stop stocking over wild fish and in waters that can't support trout - the best long term solution, IMO Very much agreed, though, again...result: less trout. Or at least...less cookie cutter 8-12" pale-looking rainbows with no fins, two mouths, or shredded tails that crap neon turds that float. 
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RE: annoyed at PFBC
2012/02/10 10:59:00
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QUantity does not - Quality. PFBC's biggest problem that is so ingrained in the PA "trout fisherman's" brain, that it's hard to change minds about it. If guys don't catch 27, 10-14" fish on a mid April morning, they are mad about it. I'd rather catch 4 or 5 wild, colorful, fish that same morning. ORIGINAL: Cold
neon turds that float.
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RE: annoyed at PFBC
2012/02/10 11:04:39
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I'd rather catch 4 or 5 wild, colorful, fish that same morning. I'd rather catch pike and bass that same morning. As a bonus, you can pretty much guarantee you won't see anyone else...
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RE: annoyed at PFBC
2012/02/10 12:26:28
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Stop stocking over wild fish and in waters that can't support trout - the best long term solution, IMO.
I agree with the first part, but not so much with the second. The majority of the streams in western PA are not capable of supporting trout year round IMO, with a few obvious exceptions. While I don't spend lots of time at these places, I still enjoy having some places nearby to kill a few hours. I would rather not have every stream within 2 hours of me be removed from the trout stockings and I think most people would agree. You need to remember that close to 60% of licensed PA fisherman buy a trout stamp. I doubt the PFBC would do anything to jeopardize those sales.
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RE: annoyed at PFBC
2012/02/10 12:58:49
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I agree with the first part, but not so much with the second. The majority of the streams in western PA are not capable of supporting trout year round IMO, with a few obvious exceptions. Get out of Allegheny county, dUUd. 
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RE: annoyed at PFBC
2012/02/10 13:24:03
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There are trout outside of Allegheny County? Honestly, I am less than 15 minutes from the famous Pine Crick and I couldn't tell you the last time I fished it
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RE: annoyed at PFBC
2012/02/10 13:37:29
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Honestly, I am less than 15 minutes from the famous Pine Crick and I couldn't tell you the last time I fished it Aren't you lucky, you have a world-class, blue-ribbon trout stream right down the street...
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RE: annoyed at PFBC
2012/02/10 14:00:47
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The world's greatest fishery in the world I like to fish for trout. I don't eat 'em. I fish in ponds and ditches that have no business getting trout. If those ponds and ditches didn't get trout, or got less trout, I couldn't care less. Plenty of farm pond bass around that fight better and reproduce naturally. Plenty of slab bluegills in those ponds that taste better than trout. Just don't mess with my steelhead
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RE: annoyed at PFBC
2012/02/10 14:25:02
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No way boring small panfish taste better than a trout out of cold water?! TasteLESS is how I find local "panfish"...way too mild and soft fleshed as well...awful....
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RE: annoyed at PFBC
2012/02/10 14:26:21
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Have you eaten stocked trout?
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RE: annoyed at PFBC
2012/02/10 14:30:18
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I said slabs. 8-10" bluegills. I do like my fish mild though, and those bull gills fit the bill. With the right seasoning and breading, they don't taste like fish at all Not mushy at all in the fall and spring.
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RE: annoyed at PFBC
2012/02/10 14:37:50
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I'd rather catch pike and bass that same morning. As a bonus, you can pretty much guarantee you won't see anyone else...
If they stopped stocking trout, you'd likely have more company. So, not all good to come out of it... Personally, I could care less, since I fish for trout maybe 4-5 days per year. 3 of those are at a cabin in NCPA and 1-2 are at North Park for 1/2 hour or so, until the kids want to do something else. I could care less if it were bass, trout or panfish in that lake. I'd just hope, if they don't stock with trout, they at least try to get some decent size fish in it.
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RE: annoyed at PFBC
2012/02/10 15:21:28
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Don't you just hate it when fish taste like fish?
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RE: annoyed at PFBC
2012/02/10 15:25:21
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Don't you just hate it when fish taste like fish?
Part of the way any animal tastes is based on their food: corn-fed beef, deer that eat mostly soybeans, bears that eat of garbage dumps, etc. Pellet-heads that taste like dog food and powerbait...
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RE: annoyed at PFBC
2012/02/10 15:32:07
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Don't you just hate it when fish taste like fish?
Yup, which is why I only eat panfish in PA. I was fully aware of the irony of my statement, maybe I shoulda used this instead of this
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RE: annoyed at PFBC
2012/02/10 17:05:14
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Trout can be made very good, just need to hide that fishy taste... It does compliment some flavors. They are great BBQed with a glaze or smoked. A bit more work than panfish or other white flesh fish IMO, so tend to target them when meat hunting. Some like their taste in simple butter / spice, ect. Personally, unless the trout taste is almost completely masked, I'm not a fan. Also can't stand the small bones, but many fish have those and not too hard to remove first. There are only a few cuts of beef, or bacon, that I enjoy without some sort of masking. I'd be dead, if I only ate bacon, ribeye and T-bones though... To each their own. Beer time!
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RE: annoyed at PFBC
2012/02/10 17:41:00
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Wow! I love what this thread has turned into. Thanks guys for good discussion without a reduction into the crap that happens on so many other ones. Let me see if i can cover all this since i last checked in.... -what's a char? Is it charbroiled? Charcoaled? -Love DHALO stockings -D-Nymph, why do u want to take my trout? Donnie Iris will be mad if he can't catch dem trahht outta turtle creek nnat. And please stop trying to come up with real solutions. Don't u know that the true purpose of a discussion thread is just to complain -"pale-looking rainbows with no fins, two mouths, or shredded tails that crap neon turds that float." mmm that sounds like some people i know -I too eat fish i catch but do everything i can to make them taste un fish-like -Do NOT touch the steelies -still ain't got a response from the PFBC Workin next week in the Juniata area. can't wait to do some real trout fishin out there. But there is also a place in my heart for North Park!
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RE: annoyed at PFBC
2012/02/11 02:12:22
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I feel that almost all fish if cooked properly can taste just as good as one or the other, oh and good luck with the J's
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RE: annoyed at PFBC
2012/02/11 08:16:14
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Wait till they stop stocking I emphise the word stocked Bigger pellet heads that taste nasty and fullof bones.You will relly hear the trout haters whining and crying!!! Oh my chrome. Yes the steelhead that wonderful tasting trout caught out of pure virgin waters with a slight taste of waders and also power bait.
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RE: annoyed at PFBC
2012/02/11 08:53:34
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ice nut i have cooked up some fresh caught steelies, bread, pan fried and seasoned properly that taste pretty darn good.
I know the water ain't pristine, which is why we only eat them once in awhile. But they definitely taste good if ya cook em right, i agree with 7mile.
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RE: annoyed at PFBC
2012/02/11 11:05:48
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It was more just satire, Just wanted to make a point all trout are trout and no water in Pa is pristine!!!!Guys bashing guys for fishing for trout in certaing bodies of water hating the trout then kneeling at the altar of steelhead (A Trout).Standing in a hole(Manchester for example with 25 other guys dressed like a cabelas cover boy!!! for a fish that tastes just as bad ate the same pellets from just as polluted waters as allegheny county.
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RE: annoyed at PFBC
2012/02/11 11:31:43
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Stillbows have been off the pellets for years by the time they're caught... But, I see your point. We all have our opinions on what the state does/doesn't do. If you want good panfish, just go somewhere w no trout. If you want wilds, they're out there. And if you want cookie cutter pelletheads, they're plentiful all over pa. So nobody should really have a real problem imo. But I certainly see the reasoning behind them not stocking a recently drained lake. Gotta let what's there establish itself before putting hundreds of bigger fish in there that will never establish themselves.
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RE: annoyed at PFBC
2012/02/11 14:22:35
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But Fishinguy, though it was recently drained, its been filled for months, and they already put some glade run fish in it. Why not trout?
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