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RE: twin lakes ice
2012/01/27 03:48:44
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Where were the weeds killed? to be honest I haven't seen any spots? I'm just curious, I don't mind them, thats where I catch all my bass =)
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RE: twin lakes ice
2012/01/27 07:19:40
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OK Ill try to make this as simple as I can. Weeds provide cover for insects and small fish. Removing these weeds THEN stocking hundreds of fish that are unable to sustain themselves through spawning (like the Bass, crappie, perch and bluegill) Those trout compete with the "native" fish for food. If you don't think it has any effect on the other fish then can someone explain what happened to the bass? The population has been on the decline for the past few years. My point is simple, there are other fish that fight better and taste better that trout. I just don't understand the fact that a stocked trout that has was raised in a holding tank is held so high in some peoples opinions. To each their own, I just wish it didn't affect other types of fishing as much as it does.
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RE: twin lakes ice
2012/01/27 08:47:29
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Unfortunately for your theory on the damage that you think has been done to Twin Lakes,according to the PFC bioligist, Twin is still one of the most productive lakes around for Bass & panfish.You can check this out by reading thier netting results on thier site.Actualy he told me that is one reason that there are fewer big bass showing up in thier surveys. You can stand on the breast of either lake & watch schools consisting of hundreds of small bass cruising along.I believe that he said that they are conducting another survey there this year or next. Also btw the weed removal was supervised under thier guidelines.As far as popularity of fish species,I love whatever specie I am fishing for at the time. I put Crappie at the top of my list. sam
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RE: twin lakes ice
2012/01/27 10:30:37
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I've never seen any big schools of bass.. just trout. There are a decent amount if bass in there, small ones... the biggest me and my buddy managed to pull in all year was just under 16" I think the rest were 14" and under..
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RE: twin lakes ice
2012/01/27 10:47:49
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Iv'e seen a ton of stupid Bass in Twin Lakes, stupid little ones, stupid big ones, and even caught a few stupid nice ones by accident.....one thing is true about all of them, they are all stupid. Trout in Twin Lakes is what makes it worth fishing....I wouldn't even consider it for another species unless ice fishing for panfish. You want bass, go find a farm pond where you can catch one on every cast, then it gets remotely fun for a few hours before it gets just as boring as Largemouth bass fishing anywhere else is. It's a shame people hate trout so much, I would be willing to bet that if we did not stock trout in PA, license sales would be down.
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RE: twin lakes ice
2012/01/27 14:29:35
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For the record I'm not a bass fisherman, I target panfish and walleye mostly. Crappie fishing used to be good in both lakes now its just average. Perch used to be almost non-existance but have seemed to rebound as of late. Bluegill...well if you catchone over 7 inches thats awesome! Sam, I cant dispute what a biologist said, but do you believe everything someone who is paid form ANY government agency says? I dont, but thats just me. Everyone have fun outsmarting fish that have been raised in captivity. Ill put the ones I catch to a good use.
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RE: twin lakes ice
2012/01/27 14:32:59
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ORIGINAL: Loomis It's a shame people hate trout so much, I would be willing to bet that if we did not stock trout in PA, license sales would be down. I dont see a problem with that. Less trout stamps = less trout stocked = more open shoreline on the approved trout ponds. JMHO
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RE: twin lakes ice
2012/01/27 15:28:20
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Seems a little selfish to want to remove trout stocking from that really small percentage our waters that are used for that purpose.... I you dont want to fish the "Trout" lakes....there is a far far greater percentage of waterways (lakes and rivers) that do NOT contain stocked trout and where the bass and other "legitimate" species are larger than at say, Twin Lakes....
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RE: twin lakes ice
2012/01/27 15:36:56
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In answer to the original question on this thread....Well, today Twin Lakes had absolutely no ice on either lake....Lower a bit dirty but still got a couple of trout as did others....even the shaded areas on the wooded side of the Lower are without any ice at all. Dont see it coming for at least another week again either.... LOL...as I was leaving, an army of fisheries inspectors arrived in three large vehicles, blocked my car in and checked my bucket and the whole trunk of my car and then went down to check on the sole other guy fishing. 4 inspectors on a day like today when you are unlikely to get the "poachers" out....pity they didnt react that way in summer when I reported a person with a bucket full of 6 inch LM Bass....
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RE: twin lakes ice
2012/01/27 15:37:16
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You are correct but I dont live 1/2 mile from those lakes. Selfish? Maybe, but no more than the guy who wants more trout stocked so he can get his limit faster.
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RE: twin lakes ice
2012/01/27 16:11:43
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Hey swans, that was me! Nice to meet you. That's already the second time I've been checked there this year! It doesn't bother me they check, but they sure seem to disappear come summer time. Caught 2 rainbows today, near moving water.
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RE: twin lakes ice
2012/01/27 16:30:29
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Why don't we all get together at one of the TLFA meetings and shake this out. That might be pretty interesting. Seems like everyone has some good points on the forum.
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RE: twin lakes ice
2012/01/27 17:33:42
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Been there Don, until the Trout Lakes Fishing Association starts to have a broader outlook I see no point.
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RE: twin lakes ice
2012/01/27 17:55:36
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Yeah...FishinGuy, good to meet you! You know...I am not surprised how you were seeing and hitting them in that spot. I reckon it would be instinct for them to go towards that incoming rushing cold water that was happening today!.... Dennis....
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RE: twin lakes ice
2012/01/27 22:48:59
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a bucket full of 6" bass? that's just wrong, what could you possibly gain from taking those? let them grow.. that's probably why there aren't many big ones in there. =(
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RE: twin lakes ice
2012/01/28 08:30:26
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Yeah, that guy with the bass was approached by several of us, but, LOL, he claimed not to understand English?!....
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RE: twin lakes ice
2012/01/28 08:38:30
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Probably stocking a pond. Imo those lakes are way overpopulated w dink bass. They all have big heads and tiny little bodies. Don't really know how the trout are affecting the situation, but it seems to me either the bass don't have enough to eat or there aren't enough fish that eat stunted bass. W all the panfish in that lake you'd think they'd all be hogs by now, but they're all still dinks. Still can't understand how this lake is still considered a big bass enhancement lake. Esp after reading the electro fishing reports.
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RE: twin lakes ice
2012/01/28 09:27:04
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It was explained to me by the PFC that one reason it was made a big bass lake was the hope that as the bass got bigger they would eat more of the panfish. This was not done just to get larger bass. That is why Indian Lake & Mammoth are also big bass lakes.With the amount of pressure that these small lakes get,it is unrealistic to expect any numbers of big bass such as we have in larger lakes.Before Twin was open to the public there were HUGE bass in there,much as in Beaver Run to-day. sam
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RE: twin lakes ice
2012/01/28 18:54:21
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And where do you think all of those big bass went i bet you thy went home on someone's stringer who didn't even want them thy just had to show them off to there buddy's. if you keep taking the big ones out you cant expect anything but small ones to be left. Be smart take a picture of it and set it free again. Don't be greedy
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RE: twin lakes ice
2012/01/28 18:57:22
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In my years of fishing twin lakes I have never seen a bass on a stringer. I love fishing for trout on that lake especially through the ice. The best local lake around SW Pa imo. I think the Association doesn't get enough credit for all that they do for the lake. If everyone has a problem with the lake they have meetings that very few people actually go to. Anyways, I'm going fishing in the morning at Mammoth if anyone wants to join. Ed
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RE: twin lakes ice
2012/01/28 19:04:47
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It's a nice little lake to go waste a day and watch the chicks jog by
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RE: twin lakes ice
2012/01/28 19:51:20
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there are no big bass at twin anymore because the lakes are too shallow, have no place for big bass to hide, and the lakes get a lot of fishing pressure. when they put the walkway the entire way around the bottom lake and put the bridge over the spillway that opened the lake up to a lot more fishing pressure, since then the fishing has declined. the lakes are also probably a couple feet shallower than what they were just 10-15 yrs ago due to silt build up. take a walk over the the far end of the lower lake where the island/marsh area is. it doesn't take an expert to realize that the entire area over there is way too shallow to hold any fish. i remember when that area used to be one of the best spots to fish on either lake, there used to be some really nice bass over there.
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RE: twin lakes ice
2012/01/28 19:56:15
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The lakes really aren't that shallow, I got 19' on the lower and I think mr. Crappie got 23' on the upper, sure they are shallow in some areas but they are deep compared to most around here.. mammoth only gets 8' at the deepest according to the fish and game officer I talked to during the summer
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RE: twin lakes ice
2012/01/29 09:25:52
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+1 and mammoth holds a lot bigger bass too. 3/4 of that lake is under 4ft and I've seen many bass in the 16"+ plus range and one that had to be pushing 8lbs. These big fish are just much more cautious if biting, of all the big boys I've seen in that lake, I've only landed 1. I've only ever seen 1 big bass at twin, only saw its head, but it was huge. Tucked right in some weeds 5ft off the walkway.
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RE: twin lakes ice
2012/01/29 14:22:10
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Was he in the corner where the rocks end past the spillway on the lower?
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RE: twin lakes ice
2012/01/29 15:18:56
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RE: twin lakes ice
2012/01/29 15:21:32
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There's one there too then but he's interested in absolutely nothing
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RE: twin lakes ice
2012/01/29 15:51:15
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Mr Eman89so got a little story for you. Last year I was out in a boat and was coming in to the dock and I saw a guy catch a fish over toward where what is call the point. I saw him put the fish on a stringer. After I got my gear put away I walked over to him and asked if he had been doing any good. He said he got one. We talked about the fish catching being slow for a while. I walked over and looked as the fish on the stringer. It was about a 11" bass. I mentioned that the fish he had was a bass and the limit was 15". He just ignored me. So we talked a bit more and I asked if he was going to release the fish. Well he didn't know if he was going to or not. But after a while he finally did. So point of my story: yes there are bass going on stringers, yes some people don't know the difference between a bass and trout, yes some people could care less about the future of the fishery, and yes there are short bass going into some coolers and are not seen. So as been said, it takes all kind to make up the fishermen population.
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RE: twin lakes ice
2012/01/29 17:42:20
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During ice fishing I constantly see the game wardens on the ice checking for licenses however I have never seen one during the trout season. Could be bad timing but with the amount of people i see there fishing I wish there were there alot more
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RE: twin lakes ice
2012/01/29 19:27:48
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Whats the weather calling for this coming Saturday? Guessing it'll keep ice free then.
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