please help with this question

Which WMU are you planning to hunt?  First round of bonus tags will be accepted starting the Monday before his birthday.

You can buy him his junior license before his 12th birthday on June 1st 2012 .. if he has had the hunter safety course... so you can send for his doe tag on the first round ... he just can not "use" his junior license until he is 12 in August...

doc is right. my birthday fell in augest and i was able to buy my junior licience in june and send on the first round

Don't think he could use yours, but as the others have said he can send for the first draw...

From PA Game Commission web site


http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt?open=514&objID=596046&mode=2#juniorresidenthunt



Junior Resident Hunting License: ($6.70)
Issued to bona fide residents of Pennsylvania ages 12 through 16.

Eleven-year-olds may apply for a junior license if they will reach age 12 by June 30 of the current license year and have successfully completed the required Hunter-Trapper Education Course.

The actual hunting privileges granted to the Junior license holder may not be exercised until they reach age 12.

In addition to the junior applicant's signature, his/her parent or guardian must sign the license to validate it and the information provided before the junior license holder goes afield

Okay let's get this straight..


he can get a juniior license .. plain and simple .... as posted the current license year will be 2012-2013 and he will turn 12 in that license year... next year the license year is == July 1,2012 until June 30,2013 ....

We just discussed this a week or so ago in another thread...

you can still get a mentor permit (to cover until he is 12) but it will not really do you any good because there are no "hunts" (seasons) available for him before he turns 12 in August...

If you do not belive me = call Harrisburg and they will tell you the same thing !!!!

ORIGINAL: fishinmike30

Well i guess we will have to try for the mentor... but i still dont see why i couldnt tag a deer that he shot with me standing next to him ....wih my valid doe lic. which will happen regardless of what anyone says anyway ..deer will have a leagle tag on it whats the differene who shoots it as long as its tagged properly

 
There is a huge different between who shoots and who tags a deer. Except for the LEGAL mentoring program regulations when someone shoots a deer and someone else tags it both parties are in violation and can be charged with an illegal deer. That ranges from a summary of second degree on up to perhaps a misdemeanor (with fines from $400 on up to perhaps into the thousands) depending on various factors.
 
Is that really the way you want to start your young first year hunter into the sport of hunting?
 
R.S. Bodenhorn

im not understanding for some reason ...its ok for a mentor hunt but not a deer season hunt

A mentored youth is one not old enough to get a junior license. In order to try to increase interest the PGC has allowed kids under 12 to take advantage of the mentored youth hunting opportunities.

A mentored youth hunting deer has been allowed to harvest a buck as long as it had a 3  inch antler. This is the first year they will be allowed to harvest an antlerless deer and use the adult's tag.. limit one deer per year... in any deer season ... the October antlerless junior senior hunt.. all of archery..rifle season ..muzzleoader seasons, and late seasons... any of these deer seasons

A junior hunter must have a junior license and an antlerless tag for the WMU they are hunting in..

.well dad why cant i use your tag like we did last year

For the same reason that down the road you will have to explain to your (then) junior hunter why he will no longer be able to shoot just any buck ... He has an adult license now and must abide by ARs...

It's the law and law biding folks abide by them....

I would hope that you would not agree with this and in a way it is using your same logic about who cares who shoots and/or tags a deer...  ??

My wife does not hunt, my kids do not hunt,,, but if I buy them all a license it would be okay for me to shoot all those deer and use their tags ???? REALLY. you think that would be okay and should not make a difference who shoots the deer????

A deer tag is money for the PGC plain and simple. If it wasn't, places such as Wal-Mart who do not check for safety ed class or previous license would be ban from selling PA hunting licenses for the PGC.

Even though it's against the law to sell to such

Show me the law saying I can not sell a licenses to someone who does not have hunter ed or prior license.. the law says a HUNTER must have these in order to buy a license... I ask the question .. he says yes ... and he signs the license.. it's not on me.... it's his responsiblity to have those.. not mine to check for proof....



There is NOTHING telling/requiring an issuing agent to check for hunter ed or prior license...
the law states a HUNTER must have one of those to get a license in PA... it's on the applicant not seller ....

there is a question in the process we read.. do you have a hunter ed or prior license.. if they say yes ..we proceed....

When the Pa "hunter" signs the license == he just signed  a LEGAL document saying he has met the requirements to have a Pa hunting license.. and that everything is the truth..  i.e.   = Pa. resident, hunter ed or prior license...

if checked later and he does not have one of those he is going to get fined.. saying the guy at wal-mart never asked for proof is not going to get him off...

that is why we read that question to everyone and have them sign the license before they walk away from the counter...


It is not the issuing agents responsible to check for proof.. The law requires the hunter to have them before even applying...  .. the burden is on him not the seller of the license.........

I make all adults sign THEIR license in front of me ...


If they bought for a junior hunter or mentor permit.. who was not there ---  I made the guardian sign on his line before leaving...

and if it were for some other adult. I just made sure they understood the license had to be signed before being place in a holder and on a person's back or they would be a fined for not having it signed... ( making it a legal document)

You also just proved my point about ME not having to check for "proof"... when that adult got her license from say her husband after he got home from the hardware.. she signed it making her responsible for having the requirements needed to even have a PA license...not me asking for "proof"...

I did ask the adult buying the license did those folks have HE or prior license and they said yes.. so away we go.....

for what ====  I did NOTHING wrong ....  you're something else


BTW.. If a person tells me they or someone else had a prior Pa hunting license and I push YES... the computer will let me know if they did or did not have one .. if not  == it will not print out.... 

Plus I had 2 guys this year trying to buy a license when their rights to have one had been revoked...  some people  ...

ORIGINAL: Dr. Trout

for what ====  I did NOTHING wrong ....  you're something else


BTW.. If a person tells me they or someone else had a prior Pa hunting license and I push YES... the computer will let me know if they did or did not have one .. if not  == it will not print out.... 

Plus I had 2 guys this year trying to buy a license when their rights to have one had been revoked...  some people  ...

Does your computer tell youif they actually had a safety course taken? BTW yes I'm something ,and when I see a problem I spell it out.

I am not sure if it stops for that or not ... but again if they had a license the year before without a HE course it's their responsibilty and they lied the year before....

I do not think if it's the first time the computer knows if they had a HE course or not yet .. I have not experienced that one..

I have had MANY adult and juniors PROUDLY show me their hunter ed certificates without me even asking .. and I ALWAYS congratulate them on passing the course..

ORIGINAL: Dr. Trout

Just imagine if buying a firearm was this easy

Actually buying a gun is easier than a hunting license .. I need NO training or safety courses AT ALL.....


There are NO requirements for me buying a gun and taking it into the woods at all in Pa ....


All I have to do is pass a background check and be 18 years old as far as I know... HOW HARD IS THAT ????

actually carrying a gun in the woods in PA is Prima Facia evidence of hunting, in which case you would need a hunting license and to get that you would have needed the HE card.

Permitted handgun is a different story you have a "PERMIT"

Buy a shotgun and go walking around the woods and see what that will get you.


Always thought you had to show you had a license last year or a hunter safety card to get a new license. Sombodies slipping here.....