Food Plots On SGL's 
Food Plots On SGL's
Does the PGC provide hunters with a map of where they (PGC) planted food plots? I have read where a guy had noticed a food plot on SGL's and didn't know if a person planning on hunting by it planted it or the PGC planted it. How would the average hunter know if a food plot is legal or not on game lands ?
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RE: Food Plots On SGL's
2011/09/30 01:47:00
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"How would the average hunter know if a food plot is legal or not on game lands ?"
By reading the digest?
Taking Advantage of Food or Bait: It is unlawful to hunt in or around
any area where artificial or natural bait, food, hay, grain, fruit, nuts, salt,
chemicals or minerals, including their residues, are used, or have been
used within the past 30 days, as an enticement to lure game or wildlife
regardless of the type or quantity. Hunters are responsible for ensuring
that the hunting area has not been baited before they begin hunting. They
should physically inspect the area and question landowners, guides and
caretakers. This section does not pertain to hunting near areas where accepted
farming or habitat management practices are taking place (example:
hunting near food plots on game lands is legal).[/u]
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RE: Food Plots On SGL's
2011/09/30 06:53:18
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My question is, sorry I'm too lazy to look into the book, how far from a food source are you legally allowed to hunt? My buddy has a feeder at camp, and I told him to leave it runnin. Just dont hunt around it. Make sense?
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RE: Food Plots On SGL's
2011/09/30 07:38:06
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My question is, sorry I'm too lazy to look into the book, how far from a food source are you legally allowed to hunt? My buddy has a feeder at camp, and I told him to leave it runnin. Just dont hunt around it. Make sense?
According to Doc, the 1,000 yards I was away from a 1/4 acre beet field that I did not know was there (on private property) was way too close and is considered by him to be baiting. According to him, you need to be at least three nautical miles away.  Unless of course it is in an area that fed shelled corn from the first possible day to do so to the last possible day to do so. Then feel free to be within spitting distance of the spot. 
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RE: Food Plots On SGL's
2011/09/30 07:53:50
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Distance does not matter bloody hand. If it is determined you shot a deer in route to bait, you're nailed.
I was in dicks sporting goods last night. Some of the shelves were overrun with acorn rage and deer cocaine. They was even some on the floor the shelf was so full. Fully when CWD gets here, this **** is going to stop. Doubt it; the mighty dollar is most important.
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RE: Food Plots On SGL's
2011/09/30 08:20:38
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The funny thing is that stuff isn't any better(not even as good) than hunting a apple tree, oak tree, or crop field this time of year. Now if you wanted to kill them in April, May, or June that's a different story.
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RE: Food Plots On SGL's
2011/09/30 16:56:15
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ORIGINAL: spoonchucker
"How would the average hunter know if a food plot is legal or not on game lands ?"
By reading the digest?
Taking Advantage of Food or Bait: It is unlawful to hunt in or around
any area where artificial or natural bait, food, hay, grain, fruit, nuts, salt,
chemicals or minerals, including their residues, are used, or have been
used within the past 30 days, as an enticement to lure game or wildlife
regardless of the type or quantity. Hunters are responsible for ensuring
that the hunting area has not been baited before they begin hunting. They
should physically inspect the area and question landowners, guides and
caretakers. This section does not pertain to hunting near areas where accepted
farming or habitat management practices are taking place (example:
hunting near food plots on game lands is legal).[/u]
You missed the point to my question. Some game lands are very large and anyone could plant a food plot not just the PGC. While it is legal to hunt on or around a food plot who's to say it "wasn't" planted by the PGC ? I mean how would on know if they are not mapped and made available to all hunters? Any one could throw seed with a broadcast spreader on game lands and then return at a later date and hunt over it.
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RE: Food Plots On SGL's
2011/09/30 17:01:36
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ORIGINAL: S-10
The funny thing is that stuff isn't any better(not even as good) than hunting a apple tree, oak tree, or crop field this time of year. Now if you wanted to kill them in April, May, or June that's a different story.
Agreed but come late season I would disagree. Never hunted over a plot except way back in bow season many years ago. Hunted the wood line adjacent to clover. All my hunting now is in timber.
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RE: Food Plots On SGL's
2011/09/30 17:03:24
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ORIGINAL: DarDys
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My question is, sorry I'm too lazy to look into the book, how far from a food source are you legally allowed to hunt? My buddy has a feeder at camp, and I told him to leave it runnin. Just dont hunt around it. Make sense?
According to Doc, the 1,000 yards I was away from a 1/4 acre beet field that I did not know was there (on private property) was way too close and is considered by him to be baiting. According to him, you need to be at least three nautical miles away. Unless of course it is in an area that fed shelled corn from the first possible day to do so to the last possible day to do so. Then feel free to be within spitting distance of the spot.
Special rules for special people I guess.
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RE: Food Plots On SGL's
2011/09/30 17:09:23
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If you check the GL maps on the PGC website, you can find out if they are marked.
I know they recently updated many, if not all, of them. On the old PDF maps they had available, the food plot areas were marked on the maps. Haven't paid attention to see if the new ones have them or not.
I am curious as to why you raise this question in the first place. It's not illegal to hunt over a food plot, and I can't imagine that many - if any - hunters would go through all the work of planting a plot on totally public land that others could take advantage of. Even if they did, why would you be concerned about the legality of hunting there, since it's a legal practice? Unless there's a regulation that planting/farming by private individuals for hunting purposes is not permitted on game lands?
Not trying to be a smart ****, just wondering what your concern is about.
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RE: Food Plots On SGL's
2011/09/30 17:41:42
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Exaxtly squared,
Food plots are an "accepted habitat management practice", and are legal to hunt regardless of where they are planted, or by whom.
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RE: Food Plots On SGL's
2011/09/30 17:57:09
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ORIGINAL: rsquared
If you check the GL maps on the PGC website, you can find out if they are marked.
I know they recently updated many, if not all, of them. On the old PDF maps they had available, the food plot areas were marked on the maps. Haven't paid attention to see if the new ones have them or not.
I am curious as to why you raise this question in the first place. It's not illegal to hunt over a food plot, and I can't imagine that many - if any - hunters would go through all the work of planting a plot on totally public land that others could take advantage of. Even if they did, why would you be concerned about the legality of hunting there, since it's a legal practice? Unless there's a regulation that planting/farming by private individuals for hunting purposes is not permitted on game lands?
Not trying to be a smart ****, just wondering what your concern is about.
I understand how you might question this. I have heard where one was scouting and found several stands surrounding a planted plot on SGL's. They wanted to know if it was a legal plot. That got my curiosity up and I pulled up SGL 77 as I might visit there on my way back from Grices. I plan on carring a weapon and was wondering what if I was by or on a plot that the PGC did not plant? The map showed a few plots but are all SGL's plots mapped? A lot of times one enters SGL as the spur of the moment and doesn't always have time to search out and looked for mapped plots. Some GL are very large and one could easily throw down seed. This whole know your area before you hunt thing from the PGC is BS. We're talking very large tract of land. How is a hunter to know if the plot is legal or not ?
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RE: Food Plots On SGL's
2011/09/30 17:59:55
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ORIGINAL: spoonchucker
Exaxtly squared,
Food plots are an "accepted habitat management practice", and are legal to hunt regardless of where they are planted, or by whom.
So your saying that it is legal for you to seed SGL's and hunt there ?
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RE: Food Plots On SGL's
2011/09/30 18:10:41
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From the regs on p.18 of the digest: Plant, gather, cut, dig, remove or otherwise injure any plants or
parts thereof, including trees, shrubs, vines, flowering plants and
cultivated crops. (Mushrooms and fruits of berry-producing
plants may be picked.) So, there's the reg. If it's not planted by the PGC, it's illegal. I still can't imagine, for the life of me, somebody going through the trouble of actually planting a food plot on a GL, legal or not. If you're talking about "scattered seed" that you can see on top of the soil, I think you know the answer to that.
post edited by rsquared - 2011/09/30 18:13:04
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RE: Food Plots On SGL's
2011/09/30 18:15:50
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"So your saying that it is legal for you to seed SGL's and hunt there ?"
No, I'm saying it's legal to hunt there, regardless of who planted it. The violation ( if there is one ) would be in the planting ( not the hunting ), and only the "planter" would be in violation.
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RE: Food Plots On SGL's
2011/09/30 18:23:20
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ORIGINAL: rsquared
From the regs on p.18 of the digest:
Plant, gather, cut, dig, remove or otherwise injure any plants or
parts thereof, including trees, shrubs, vines, flowering plants and
cultivated crops. (Mushrooms and fruits of berry-producing
plants may be picked.)
So, there's the reg. If it's not planted by the PGC, it's illegal.
I still can't imagine, for the life of me, somebody going through the trouble of actually planting a food plot on a GL, legal or not.
If you're talking about "scattered seed" that you can see on top of the soil, I think you know the answer to that.
I understand the regs as what is legal and what's not. Spooner seemed to think it was legal. Hey they grow pot in the national forest and on SGL's so nothing amazes me anymore. Even find a stand nailed in now and then. Are people just ballzy or just not educated on regs ?
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RE: Food Plots On SGL's
2011/09/30 18:26:07
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ORIGINAL: spoonchucker
"So your saying that it is legal for you to seed SGL's and hunt there ?"
No, I'm saying it's legal to hunt there, regardless of who planted it. The violation ( if there is one ) would be in the planting ( not the hunting ), and only the "planter" would be in violation.
I belive your wrong, but who am I to make such a statement? To be continued........
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RE: Food Plots On SGL's
2011/09/30 18:44:44
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Food plots ( unlike bait ), in & of themselves are not illegal to hunt. So how would YOU be in violation, if YOU didn't plant it?
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RE: Food Plots On SGL's
2011/09/30 18:47:21
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ORIGINAL: spoonchucker
"So your saying that it is legal for you to seed SGL's and hunt there ?"
No, I'm saying it's legal to hunt there, regardless of who planted it. The violation ( if there is one ) would be in the planting ( not the hunting ), and only the "planter" would be in violation.
Makes sense Spoon. Didn't think it through that far.
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RE: Food Plots On SGL's
2011/09/30 18:48:13
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From the regs on p.18 of the digest:
Plant, gather, cut, dig, remove or otherwise injure any plants or
parts thereof, including trees, shrubs, vines, flowering plants and
cultivated crops. (Mushrooms and fruits of berry-producing
plants may be picked.)
So, there's the reg. If it's not planted by the PGC, it's illegal.
I still can't imagine, for the life of me, somebody going through the trouble of actually planting a food plot on a GL, legal or not.
If you're talking about "scattered seed" that you can see on top of the soil, I think you know the answer to that.
I understand the regs as what is legal and what's not. Spooner seemed to think it was legal.
Hey they grow pot in the national forest and on SGL's so nothing amazes me anymore.
Even find a stand nailed in now and then. Are people just ballzy or just not educated on regs ?
So was this just a trick question to get us slobs to dig into the regs and know them Or were you layin' another trap for Doc & RSB 
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RE: Food Plots On SGL's
2011/09/30 18:55:23
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ORIGINAL: rsquared
ORIGINAL: Outdoor Adventures
ORIGINAL: rsquared
From the regs on p.18 of the digest:
Plant, gather, cut, dig, remove or otherwise injure any plants or
parts thereof, including trees, shrubs, vines, flowering plants and
cultivated crops. (Mushrooms and fruits of berry-producing
plants may be picked.)
So, there's the reg. If it's not planted by the PGC, it's illegal.
I still can't imagine, for the life of me, somebody going through the trouble of actually planting a food plot on a GL, legal or not.
If you're talking about "scattered seed" that you can see on top of the soil, I think you know the answer to that.
I understand the regs as what is legal and what's not. Spooner seemed to think it was legal.
Hey they grow pot in the national forest and on SGL's so nothing amazes me anymore.
Even find a stand nailed in now and then. Are people just ballzy or just not educated on regs ?
So was this just a trick question to get us slobs to dig into the regs and know them
Or were you layin' another trap for Doc & RSB
Absolutely not ! I'm going to PM you the link to this story. You then tell everyone here if this is a trick or not , OK ?
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RE: Food Plots On SGL's
2011/09/30 18:58:20
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I see you don't except PM's, so anyway any one want this link ?
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RE: Food Plots On SGL's
2011/09/30 19:01:01
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ORIGINAL: spoonchucker
Food plots ( unlike bait ), in & of themselves are not illegal to hunt. So how would YOU be in violation, if YOU didn't plant it?
That question was brought up and one replied it would be like being caught in a nailed in stand on SGL's. Guilty even though you didn't build it.
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RE: Food Plots On SGL's
2011/09/30 21:02:37
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OA is just pulling over a story from a thread over at HPA.
Retired WCO over there said it was illegal to plant it. PGC would be interested to know where the plot is (someone said they found one). They would probably try to intercept hunters hunting over it and if they don't know any better, they may admit guilt during any questioning.
I do agree with spoon's assessment. If you are just hunting it and didn't plant it and it isn't marked off with tape, you should be good to go (just don't go sayin' you planted it).
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RE: Food Plots On SGL's
2011/09/30 21:08:49
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Yep your right, just didn't want plug HPA site. I'm still courious about this. Could this be a judgement call on the WCO's part as to cite or not ?
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RE: Food Plots On SGL's
2011/09/30 21:25:21
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I see you don't except PM's, so anyway any one want this link ?
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RE: Food Plots On SGL's
2011/09/30 21:57:01
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ORIGINAL: spoonchucker
"How would the average hunter know if a food plot is legal or not on game lands ?"
By reading the digest?
Taking Advantage of Food or Bait: It is unlawful to hunt in or around
any area where artificial or natural bait, food, hay, grain, fruit, nuts, salt,
chemicals or minerals, including their residues, are used, or have been
used within the past 30 days, as an enticement to lure game or wildlife
regardless of the type or quantity. Hunters are responsible for ensuring
that the hunting area has not been baited before they begin hunting. They
should physically inspect the area and question landowners, guides and
caretakers. This section does not pertain to hunting near areas where accepted
farming or habitat management practices are taking place (example:
hunting near food plots on game lands is legal).[/u]
You missed the point to my question. Some game lands are very large and anyone could plant a food plot not just the PGC. I know of a plot planted last year of some pretty big groves of pot plants. No wonder those bucks antlers grew funny.
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RE: Food Plots On SGL's
2011/09/30 22:40:28
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Unless it contained an invasive species of plant, or created some conflict with their own habitat plans for that area. I really doubt the PGC would make much of an effort ( if any ) to even track down who planted it. Let alone cite anyone for hunting it.
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RE: Food Plots On SGL's
2011/09/30 22:40:43
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I see you don't except PM's, so anyway any one want this link ?
I do accept them. Cleaned out my box, maybe it was full. Fire away.
PM sent...
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RE: Food Plots On SGL's
2011/09/30 23:31:20
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