Lisense fees DO go to that stuff- They are a big part of any states game management system. Just cause the Deer are not in a pen does not mean that the herd size and health are not controlled by  area wide management practices.
   Most game- other than the Fed managed migratory birds- have a range that could easily be argued as not dissimilar to a pen as they tend to  stay within that particular area. Ergo regional based management and harvest numbers. Just like any farmer managing a herd on his property.
    Matter of fact when considering the Migratory flyways as just another controll area the Fed is doing the same thing. Just a much larger confined area of control. Thats why different flyways can have different bag limits.
   Example - Urban areas of much Pvt non huntable property generally have much higher Deer density than rural areas where hunting is more prevelent. Therefore the Urban often has more tags issued in an effort to maintain herd control.
    Here in CT there are areas of very high urban no hunting lands wherein a bow hunter can kill bout as many Deer as he wishes- after each kill a new tag is immediatly issued. Out in the o****ry  no such deal- you get the smaller amt of tags in order co control THAT herd.
No fences- no river banks but exactly the same principal-- enough - done.
  BTW - Tend to agree that ONLY the State can regulate bag limits- but then how bout the places with 'no doe hunting' signs posted by the owner ???
  Point is its done all over one way or another - nothing new  why complain  bout it?

So then should the state stop stocking migratory fish on waters that have private ownership on some part of them?

The salmon river is not alone in this distinction.
Many or most of the smaller tribs fall into this area.

Are you only upset by the stocked fish.
Maybe the state should spend the money to fin clip every fish so it would be catch and release only for stocked fish on his property.
Don't know about this last push most a wide majority of the fish til now have been non clipped.
The state did not spend a penny on them!

They bought a special trailer for clipping.
No more doing it by hand.
Every king is supposed to be clipped for a specific period so they can determine actual success of natural repo from egg to adult spawner.
I sure there will be some statistical math involed.

ORIGINAL: waDerboy

They bought a special trailer for clipping.
No more doing it by hand.
Every king is supposed to be clipped for a specific period so they can determine actual success of natural repo from egg to adult spawner.
I sure there will be some statistical math involed.

The clipping of every King at the SR hatchery is another fallacy being perpetuated on the interwebs, as well as the fact that many of the adipose fins that get clipped grow back on many fish.

Many hatchery Kings do get clipped - not EVERY King.

too many rumors float around using the EVERY word - just thought I would add a bit of clarification.

I would love to watch DEC lop fish heads off to take back possession of the little wire injected in their heads.
Would be fun playing the Samari Swordsman ala John Belushie.

Ever watch the egg taking?
They used to use what I knew as a wyoming knife to slit them pretty quik,dump the eggs and toss them in a drum.

Kinda like Jack Palance as Mr Hyde using his cane sword to slit the guys nose or Nickolson in Chinatown getting those strips out.
Science ain't pretty sometimes.

ORIGINAL: draketrutta

ORIGINAL: waDerboy

Ever watch the egg taking?
They used to use what I knew as a wyoming knife to slit them pretty quik,dump the eggs and toss them in a drum.

Slammo would be tramatized so much that DB would have to gently tuck him into dozer bucket for ride home from hatchery tour.

Pillow = big Ziplock Bag full of Eggos...

Gotta admit; I am laughing out loud on this one...

So anyhow- it's not our place to bash a place of business- that kinda talk can effect a bottom line. You know- real life stuff, not interwebs babble. 



Not looking for a peeeeeezing match but......

Bashing a place of business because of inaccurate reports is off limits? Is it right for places of business (NOT DSR in particular) to give false reports to get anglers to take a long trip up to the river because of inaccurate (BS) reports? Places that give bad info should be brought to attention.

It wasn't long ago that you were new to these boards and the S.R. How would you have felt if you were given BS reports all the time? Wasting time and $$$$$ for a trip that was based on lies? There are a lot of new anglers looking for accurate info on these boards and should be aware of the "game" that some places/BUSINESSES do.

That is one of the best features these boards have. Members call BS out on the carpet. We all benefit from it.

Another example of BS reports...

For quite a few years, many shops would push the "Newest, bestest fishing lures" for that particular year. Every year there was a new one. IE: J-plugs, rubber eggs, foam pellets, sponge, BLUE fake eggs, Cleos (long time ago)Kwik-fish... "Everyone using them is catching fish on them. You have to TRY it." One of the classics were floating jigheads in the early/mid 80's. I stuck with worms/eggs and caught more than the "experts" using them.

Point is there are shady characters everywhere. L. Ontario region seems to have more than it's share of them. (NOT ALL)

The good ones should be given due credit for being honest and the others... well, exposed for what they are...

I dont go fishing due to interwebs reports. I go when work allows it.
i been around for a while. if you got a prob with the internets not always being truthful take it up with al gore or email dsr

ORIGINAL: salmotrutta

take it up with al gore or email dsr

Wearing jesus thorns around your head pokes holes in eggo pillow - quite a mess.

if you dont believe dont look. just fish people. why bring complexity into a relaxing way of life?

Speechless...

see- even db agrees.

OK a crown of thorn reference followed by a sign of the apocalypse.
I not gonna worry bout my heart thingie.
I'm about to be raptured.

That's NEXT yr.