ORIGINAL: hot tuna
Really starting to suck and yes I know I was a contributor to some chaos as well, but it's getting old , even for me..

since the drama continues -

here's a sincere suggestion for everyone - try to refrain from starting anymore Kumbaya Campfire threads - it offends the slightly offensive ones - order more chill pillz if need be.

Music Industry Analogy:
There is no Nirvana - experiment failed when the lead guy in dat band blew his friggin brains out with a 12ga.

to everyone in AlGoreInterweb land:
Kumbaya threads like this somehow magically create inter-personal conflicts that are far beyond fishy wise-cracks and run-of-the-bafoonery - who flings first **** is meaningless but always unfortunate - the flinger & clinger & sometimes inocent bystanders & the gas-tossers lose. NO WINNERS

ref: Chapter 2 from View of Life via Kalidescope Lens..

later

d00ds

generally it brings out peoples character and what they are about besides talking fishing behind a computer screen.. anyone can make anything up with just a few keyboard strokes.

if it's sr only discussion that should be had then all good by me, notice served.
carry on and I will hold back until there is something I can offer to a thread.

While most of my trout fishing has been done on lakes, mainly trolling,.....i have always used Rappalas. I have had decent luck with them. Do people ever use them on the river for browns? I would think they would get some good action going against the current.

Used a blue fox minnow spin--it worked--I did take some mockery from a famous SC guide on it's use---rolled off my back like water on a duck.

Me and about a 100,000 other tyers have tried to come up with the fly rod version of the Rapala. Ain't been done.

Charlie

Fichy, I think it has It's called bobbin minnow and It smokes the trout on the Ausable.. I'll post a pic in a min..

Awesome pattern ht.... im gonna try that one and also maybe try it with some type of collar; either some soft hackle hen saddle or spun maribou to give it an entire body effect... thanks for sharing...

I'm sticking to my original thought, sorry.    Nice fly though. I fish mylar covered foam  sand eel patterns  for trout with a sink tip- it's near the same thing. They catch fish, but not the BIG ones as consistently as the old  tuned dive and wobble. That consistent tracking of the rapala allows fish to home in on it, something the big ones that don't like to waste energy appreciate. When they dump the 2 year olds in the Battenkill, same as they do the Ausable, they will  get  aggressive and kill erratic movement. I use to use a size 4 partridge salmon hook wrapped in .010 lead with a tinsel and elk hair tail and australian possum that creates a bubble sheen when wet, and darted all over because of the buoyancy of the elk hair. I've also used arched foam bodies  with slanted faces that dart and wobble along the lines of a Flatfish.  Still don't outfish a Rapala. I've spent alot of time down  in Tenn.  chasing trophy browns on the tailwaters. I've gone head to head with some of the good ol' boys using them thar plastic minners. They kicked my Yankee butt.  I have freinds that are considered some of the best guides in the south that I tried for ages to help develop THE fly. That's where I'm coming from..   You've found yours, mine is  still in the material piled on my table somewhere.

Charlie; are you opposed to trying to epoxy some type of forward baffle tongue to the bottom of a streamer hook near the eye??? If done to a bucktail streamer; you just may achieve your goal...

Nice Tuna...looks like the Ausable in the 2nd pic down..is that a stocker, nice size...my creek has some jewels, but very few that size

I'll post some local pics one day

Tight Lines

Now if I could get back 360 degrees to where it began.
Then I'll go back to one or two word posts and music only links.
This kinda sums it up for me.

http://youtu.be/6U-H3hPYBmA

nice one WB, if you only knew all the mistakes in my life.. Shoot some folks write books and get paid for their stories.. I have a novel and not a nickel to show for it though..

my apologies to all and any for all the mistakes that continue to this day..

Sheetrock is once again calling for today.

P.S.

I do like how my post count keeps dropping.. Soon I'll be a novice angler and right where I want to be..

rapalas - I "think" restrictions on them for Salmon River include no use of multiple trebles.
I know spinners must be single hook in rear..

Drake, didnt think spinners were legal at all, thought it had to be a floating lure meaning it floated when at rest. Rapalas I think also have to have a single hook untill the end of october than you can have trebles on. Could be wrong though, they change the regs so freakin much.

come on guys know the regs for the waters your fishing.. YES you can use spinners.. Single hook only Until the GENERAL NYS fishing rules apply APRIL-15 THEN you can use trebles on spinners.. That has been that way for years.. The only change about 10 years ago was the GENERAL regs changed from March-15 to April-15..

Trebles on Floating lures did change about 3 years (or so) ago to Nov-1..

Now General Fishing Regs also mean you can fish at night on the river as well.

I understand not knowing if you do not intend to use such lures but at least Read those reg books they give out with a license every year from cover to cover every so often.. Also a good idea to carry on with you..