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RE: river update... 2011/09/09 10:00:37 (permalink)
Agreed I ended up with a football field sized piece of water with 4 of us fishing.
Everyone was swingingbut the 2 below me were dredging ,hanging bottom every 6-8 drifts, ended up playing 1 and got a fallfish.
I was touching bottom every 6-8 drifts or less, I found a bigger rock that they seemed to be nosing up to and I would touch its top every now and then.
The guy across and just down from me caught on an started losing weight til he got a pretty good swing going and hooked a couple also.

It is what the people will let it be.
One of the best places or the most frustrating place to fish in the world.

By the way I was fishing blindfolded.
Were you spotting and swinging to individual fish?
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RE: river update... 2011/09/09 10:13:41 (permalink)
One thing that was an  amazing sight for someone new to shark season like me, was the sight of this foot long blue back cruising at warp speed around the surface, then a King coming out in 4 foot leap, shaking like a terrier to get the @#$%^& lamprey off!  Shaq landed  a  jack with one attached. I tailed it and pulled while  Jeff  put the cleats to it, and off  it  went unhindered.   I severely doubt I'll get to fish that pool  again this season, but I'm glad HT showed it to me. The morning was tough, but all part of the learning curve. Hanging out and learning lots of good stuff from HT made the time pass until we found the takers.
 
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RE: river update... 2011/09/09 10:24:22 (permalink)

By the way I was fishing blindfolded.
Were you spotting and swinging to individual fish?

 
I had a few I presented to and had aggresive strikes from, but mostly,  it was just trying to read the holes within the seams like I would do with steel. There were pockets of fish holding  and agitated in  certain areas. Where they were getting harassed, they stayed on the bottom. I was really hoping to get more chances at sightfishing to   holding fish and learning the technique  and water reading skills needed, but we got very little chance at that. I'll have a clue in the future, though.
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RE: river update... 2011/09/09 10:38:47 (permalink)
Three of us fished that same hole several years ago but there were a bunch of others there also.Most were fishing with Tuna rods and lots of weight.We were fishing with fly rods, chartruse Jensen eggs, and very little weight.Most were not catching much unless they "accidently" foul hooked one.We were into fish all day and several times had triples going.I think some of those others were getting a bit frustrated with us,but all thet had to do was look at what we were doing vs what they were doing.There was a big push of fish that day and the fish were on the move.
They do hit if you FISH for them!
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RE: river update... 2011/09/09 11:00:07 (permalink)
A few more figure it out every year pa.

It's nice to have fish, room and some chodes so you really can fish to them and score.
Usually without all the hardwork they are putting into it.

I used to like when they would crowd me like it was that I had THE spot only to go where just left and do it again.
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RE: river update... 2011/09/09 11:30:30 (permalink)
Here's one thing to try when others think you have a hot spot. This has worked for me alot. When you see or know fish are holding in front of you and you have fish hunters breathing down your back, fish like you see nothing there and act like nothing has been there. These guys look for people who are really focused on something in front of them, and if they ask "seen any", you say yeah a bunch 15 minutes ago now nothing. They must be just sitting up there, as you point upstream. Usually the hunter goes in pursuit. I'll be pointing Sunday.

Stress is just one hookset away from being gone.
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RE: river update... 2011/09/09 11:45:39 (permalink)
Dude I've seen them coming with a steelhead on the hook, threw slack at itm put the rod under my armpit and got out my flybox as if I was going to change flies, never heard my friend Charlie laugh so hard in my life.

WARNING SPOT BURNING IN PROGRESS
Well not really since the spots been gone since 85.
There used to be a willow tree on the north side just below Joss.
Didn't look like much but it had depth and a little undercut bank.
A dozen bows could hold comfortably and everyone walked by either staring in the low water fiffs to lift them or charging up or downriver to the next big hole.
Great times were had there.
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RE: river update... 2011/09/09 15:30:37 (permalink)
Remeber when the meadow had that big old willow in the middle
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RE: river update... 2011/09/09 15:43:37 (permalink)
Well I remember when the willow was a hole of its own between the meadow and the lower clay.
But then I remember when the river ran on the other side of what is now the island and the new chanel started to form.
i.e. I'm old!
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RE: river update... 2011/09/09 16:12:29 (permalink)
I remember when there was no DSR at all and ya walked in from the road- DANGER DANGER -that darn ravine was a killer in the dark. The only name we had for the holes back then was "the low end".
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RE: river update... 2011/09/09 16:17:33 (permalink)
Then you remember the sign where Douglaston is now.
FOR SALE
FISHERMANS PARADISE

Oh ya and the 2-3 foot wide revine you had to jump going in from the south side.
Those were the days my friend!
post edited by waDerboy - 2011/09/09 16:19:42
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RE: river update... 2011/09/09 16:19:49 (permalink)
No- dont recall that-but it sure is for lotsa folks.
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RE: river update... 2011/09/09 16:35:31 (permalink)
It lay on its side for years next to the mudrut you had to drive on to park in the field.
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RE: river update... 2011/09/10 06:51:30 (permalink)
Speaking of before the lower clay changed sides by creating the new channel.
T river flowed along what is the south side of the island.
There was a hole the lentgh of the island with the upper 1/3 being the real sweet spot.
It had an undercut bank with some trees leaning out over it.
The few people that "fished " down there would walk up and stand in the ho;e looking for steelhead.
Never saw or caught squat.
13 and I would stand back in the ankle deep riffle casting 35-40 of line quickly mending a few times to sink unweighted flies and crush them all day long.

Secret to the hole?
That undercut.
One day when we were leaving I was curious, so I stuck my rod into it to see how far it went back.
I stuck my 9 ft rod and arm to the shoulder underwater poking for solid ground and never touched any.
It easily held 20-50 steelhead when they were spooked as the average "fisherman" of the day walked into where they wanted to lay.

I think that is where my rather "know" they are there rather than sight them originated.
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RE: river update... 2011/09/10 08:04:57 (permalink)
Youdefinitely have many years on me lee; but you must remeber when that willow slowly crept downstream for about 2 years until one year it was toppled over in the tailout bend on the north bank...there was a nice deep rut left in the centerof the meadow after that
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RE: river update... 2011/09/10 08:11:52 (permalink)
OH YA I remember it.
I remember watching it getting ready and toppling.
The willow was the one that used to be a hole of its own at the head where the river narrowed between the meadow and the upper clay.
I don't remember it being there long. A couple years of sliding down and out.

There was another tree there years before that fell above Pville years earlier that stayed in the meadow for a few years also.
I have been trying to get past the brainfart, dementia?, of exactly where it was where it fell in.
I remember looking for it after every high water incident moved it downriver.
All those braincells I gave away in the 70s, 80s,and 90s.
That second tree gave me one of my most memerable moments on thr river.
It lay strait downriver about a third of the way out from the south side of the old willow hole.
The fish swam up the south edge and swam under the tree into the hole.
This day coho were blowing upriver all day.
I was wading out at the top of the hole and swinging down and across where it deepened.
A large male coho hit, jump as if on a recon mission, turned down, ran back under the tree, jump up and over itand then instantly did it again then after my line was tightly wraped jumped again in the hole cracking me.
If that was his idea of flipping me off I don't know what it was.
post edited by waDerboy - 2011/09/10 08:42:47
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RE: river update... 2011/09/10 10:17:11 (permalink)
Had a Steel hit up river on an egg sac in a deep side channel two years ago. The channel was strewn with downed trees and log jams. As usual it hit- turned an ran hard toward the downstream logs as I set the hook and held on tight.
  Darned fish jumped right outa the water and landed on leaf covered branches on the top of one of those jams- Laid there so still ya woulda thought it was dead- couldnt pull it off.
  Hadda take off all my stuff and swim in to get the fishie off the top of that stuff -COLD water- it was  Nov.- Just as I got to him he came around and did it himself. Darned fishes. Felt like an idiot.
  Logs in the water is fun sometimes.
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RE: river update... 2011/09/10 10:45:28 (permalink)
Fishing the boves I had a jack king do something similer.
It landed in a tree that grew out a foot and a half over the river before it grew upward.
Lower warmer water thankfullybut I had to hand my rod to a guy I didn't know while I went 30-40 yards upriver to cross and free it.
The guy got a decent fight out of iteven though it had been out of the water for 4-5 minutes.
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RE: river update... 2011/09/22 08:19:19 (permalink)
pic's here from thurs sept 8 2011

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