WaDerboy

Is yer box full? If not answer the question about the fly via pm prease. If not I'm gonna have to resort to dimebrite.

Being the legend waderboy is.... i'll take that as a compliment salmo....especially being the young buck I am....lol....

ORIGINAL: waDerboy

Oh stop it.
Now I'm blushing like a 14 year old schoolgirl that just let her boyfriend go under the bra for the first time!

now now wader; although I have that affect on most; remember there are women and children watching

This

Is this one gonna turn in to the next bs thread....funny stuff here

ORIGINAL: hot tuna

ORIGINAL: dimebrite

Being the legend waderboy is.... i'll take that as a compliment salmo....especially being the young buck I am....lol....

Ah WB, he's just suckin up cuz you don't sight dem.. LMAO..

women & children are banned.. (just kidding folks)

Good cause I'm not comfortable thinging about DB fondling any part of me.
Rethinking the 18th now.

ORIGINAL: waDerboy

ORIGINAL: hot tuna

ORIGINAL: dimebrite

Being the legend waderboy is.... i'll take that as a compliment salmo....especially being the young buck I am....lol....

Ah WB, he's just suckin up cuz you don't sight dem.. LMAO..

women & children are banned.. (just kidding folks)

Good cause I'm not comfortable thinging about DB fondling any part of me.
Rethinking the 18th now.

Fondling....Wow; someone has a one track mindLmao....

Hey lee; I agree with you 100% on blind fishing for kings... I think tuna is just jealous that we're in agreement.... lol

Big bear; hush hush.... we're working on it... don't want any leaks to the press..

They are having problems changing the kung fu grip into a fly casting stroke.
Hoping they will be out in limited numbers in time for Xmas!





PS welcome back bear.
Hows Hcamp after the flooding last year?

Like I said I have watched them swim downstream barely faster than the fly,suckitand spit it out never feeling a thing.
I also have had them try to pull the rod out of my hand.
Mostly its a solid thud followed by my sweeping down and to the bank and a headshake rise to boil the surface before looking to be back in 175' over 300' or I we non locals call it the lake.

Do I miss subler hits.
Shownuff.
Do I care, only on the slowest of days of the shortest of trips.
You know that if they are running, mostly unmolested and fresh another will come along plenty soon enough, especialy at my age when 1 goes a long way.
I might have to take a nap if I ever try to land another king.

nope, trout and salmon are total opposites and I mostly fish them in completely different water & styles.
getting a king to attack a fly is different then getting a trout to feed.. thus sight fishing salmon in the shallow pockets when they move & hold.. I can control my fly right in front of their face at their level to provoke a strike without using much if any weight.. I'm not talking lining/snagging , not every fish will strike and you have to be able to just let them non-strikers go. But as I said very effective when you learn it right and you can cover a lot of water instead of planting foot in the "spot" all day..

On the nose HT. Its all about adjusting so as to not foul fish.
Nothing wrong with an indie rig, I have a couple places on the Genny where it is far and away the best way to present a fly.
If those are the area I am fishing I have no qualms about fishing them, but I prefer to fish water where I can swim-swing a fly because the take is usually much more violent and exciting.

As to standing in the spot, as I get older, rounder, and more injury prone I find myself fishing smaller sections of river.
Always have and always will be more than willing to share and rotate but the days of parking at the Black and fishing down to the lower Clay only having to wade back up because nobody had been down there, ,against the high water that hit at 2pm every week day, whole way otherwise.
Ya back in 80 I had to learn the shortcut thru Bardlay's southside, where the makeshift parking lot used to be.
I envy your youth. Why have you been dying your hair gray?

ORIGINAL: dimebrite

it sounds to me that the culprit is the weight....maybe some of the folks who are completely concerned with the rigging methods and lining/foul hooking of fish should petition to have a completely pure river with nothing but artificialsand no added sinkers to line at all... even better; floating fly lines only with no sink tips.... just saying man...

well I only put your quotes up so I can reply according to them..

Sorry man but I totally disagree on no added weight.. You don't know how many times C&D has put smiles on clients faces steelheading in 30 some deg. water.. I would find it very hard if not almost impossible to catch fish through out winter into early spring with out using weight.. It would be hilarious seeing me trying to double haul my noodle rod.. Honestly if that were the case/rule then I would stop fishing there completely..

To me it's not about using weight, it's about using it correctly.. If you are looking to get your fly/bait down deeper then what I don't understand (well really I do)is why some folks put their weight & more of it farther away from the fly/bait.. say the 4'max. That is not sinking your fly but instead causing the belly/whip in your line..
Also, I very rarely fish the "bucket" area in dsr but last year in 335/maybe it was 550 I don't remember, I did.. From the picture of the king I was holding that I put up was from the bucket and there was nobody else there.. I guess what I'm getting at is I used 2-3/0 shots about 12" away from my fly and an un-weighted fly to catch somewhere around a dozen fish in that, what I call heavy water spot.. Now on any other given day I always see folks with strings of giant lead balls 4' up from the fly chuckin there.. Why ?

I so hate when the gov't steps in and makes DUMMY regs just because of , well dummies and no regards to the people who are fishing..

So I say , whack those dummies hard $$$ and leave the rest of the folks alone.. Only makes sense to me..

As for the float/bobber rigs..
If you properly stagger your shot then you are most likely breaking the law.. I mean starting 12" from hook then staggering it up the leader you will most likely pass 4' with the last sinker, at least I do.. I think the wardens rightfully over look that in most cases..

Now if you start your shot about 3' or so above your fly/bait then add a few clunkers above that to keep you bobber straight, Your going to line the crap outta fish.. seen it being done..

Believe me folks I know ALL the tricks and the many guys who are skilled in that crap do it right under folks noses who have no clue..

Real good discussion db, glad you brought it up and I'm so looking forward to sharing water with you folks very soon..

ORIGINAL: salmotrutta

Let's not share all of our secrets with db. God forbid we get there and he's already caught all of the fish in the river.

salmo; you're lucky I only made it up in early august; otherwise there would be NO fish in the river if I had been up in the past 2 weeks...

TOONS: thanks for not taking it the wrong way I more or less said it to prove a point... you can only look at it so far... the rest is pleasure man... fish and be happy...

Oh, I thought we were talking about fishing technique.

Yes- bobbers are pretty ****. Even my kids make fun of people using bobbers.

Pools are fun, sight fishing holding spots= fun too.

Greased line, dead drift, tight line, streamer swing, on the dirt, in the middle, just under, shoot, side, roll, water load, curve, reverse roll, steeple, trout set, strip set, drag set, whatever. It all works when you use it if at the right time or you're not expecting it.

ORIGINAL: dimebrite
secrets??? didnt you just learn about the tall bridge...

I'm amazed that Slammo never knew that bridge existed.