deetz4352
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RE: Booooooooooooo
2011/08/21 13:08:18
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Yer "bobbers" cost $8 per.  Ive sen yer "bobber" box. Its all the same thing just different sizes.Not perty.  Now my Fly Box on the other hand is so perty and has 40 different shapes sizes and colors of flys 
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RE: Booooooooooooo
2011/08/21 13:08:27
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Most of the guys I see slapping down bobbers are fly fishermen. OH SORRY--- they like to call them strike indicators. I never could tell the difference but I guess folks who wear Orvis call them strike indicators while folks wearing Sears call them bobbers.  What ever happened to feeling the take by holding the line?
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deetz4352
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RE: Booooooooooooo
2011/08/21 13:10:54
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S-10 If ya call it a " FLOAT " then there is no issue
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deetz4352
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RE: Booooooooooooo
2011/08/21 13:12:04
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ORIGINAL: S-10
What ever happened to feeling the take by holding the line?
That falls in the category of presentation.
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RE: Booooooooooooo
2011/08/21 13:19:56
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I never could understand the need of a float, bobber, strike indicator. My dad had me fly fishing at the age of eight and never used anything on the line except the fly and if necessay a weight. floats are for cane poles.
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deetz4352
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RE: Booooooooooooo
2011/08/21 13:25:25
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I dont use a float when I fly fish either.
However A floats main purpose IMO is used for depth presentation weather that be 10" under or 3' under. And I do use floats when fishing with the noodle rod and bait.
presentation again IMO is key to producing strikes.
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RE: Booooooooooooo
2011/08/21 13:39:11
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Just funnin with folks-----I'am stuck inside for a couple hours and do get tired of the bait vs fly guys arguement. I fish both bait and flies with either fly rod or noodle rod and no "float". Hell, if they were hitting on mouse or bat droppings I would sweep the barn before heading out.
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RE: Booooooooooooo
2011/08/21 14:03:24
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ORIGINAL: deetz4352
A floats main purpose IMO is used for depth presentation weather that be 10" under or 3' under.
If you tie bugs properly (i/e beaded vs non, weighted wrap vs non) you can achieve the same thing. Next time your over this way I would be happy to show you.
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RE: Booooooooooooo
2011/08/21 15:24:57
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ORIGINAL: Mr.Slickfish
ORIGINAL: deetz4352
A floats main purpose IMO is used for depth presentation weather that be 10" under or 3' under.
If you tie bugs properly (i/e beaded vs non, weighted wrap vs non) you can achieve the same thing. Next time your over this way I would be happy to show you.
By all means Mr.Slickfish you will have to enlighten me. Do I need to make an appointment? 
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RE: Booooooooooooo
2011/08/21 15:26:45
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ORIGINAL: deetz4352
OK so the way I see it , in more or less words , since I both bait fish and fly fish for steelhead I am doing it wrong no matter which way I decide to fish for steelhead.
This is the problem with bait vs. flys
I dont choose sides I just choose the way I want to fish. And the way I see it I WIN every time I fish.
Ill say no more on this and fish the way I want thank you.
Amen deetz! Well said. Exactly how I feel.
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RE: Booooooooooooo
2011/08/21 15:29:36
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Just throwing out another thought: "Fly fishing only, barbless hooks, catch and immediate release only" for all posted sections of any given steelhead stream, or a slightly modified form of that to accommodate the land owner and his immediate family. Saves the fish to be caught elsewhere on open sections of stream. This may also curtail some stream side land leases by individuals who profit from the posted properties.
Just food for thought!
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RE: Booooooooooooo
2011/08/21 16:14:17
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ORIGINAL: Dr. Trout
I like the sticker on the post, below the sign.
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RE: Booooooooooooo
2011/08/21 16:18:26
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.guys down and have ham afterwards.
post edited by Admin - 2011/08/22 13:02:45
I eat lots of sandwiches, especially ham. I also tell people things and never follow through, ask anyone my age. I fish with old guys and have no friends.
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RE: Booooooooooooo
2011/08/21 17:08:17
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ORIGINAL: Wally Cat
catch and immediate release only" The catch part is easy but immediate release doesnt work so well when I use the carbide spikes on the bottom of my boots to hold the fish down. The spikes make it easier to wipe off the slime too. I also wipe them on my coat while taking hero shots and then I generally kick them pretty hard to get em back in the water 
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RE: Booooooooooooo
2011/08/21 17:35:58
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I like the sticker on the post, below the sign.
Good catch! That is the best part. LOL.
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RE: Booooooooooooo
2011/08/21 18:02:22
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ORIGINAL: Wally Cat
Just throwing out another thought: "Fly fishing only, barbless hooks, catch and immediate release only" for all posted sections of any given steelhead stream, or a slightly modified form of that to accommodate the land owner and his immediate family. Saves the fish to be caught elsewhere on open sections of stream. This may also curtail some stream side land leases by individuals who profit from the posted properties.
Sounds good but not as good as $75,000 for the lease. I'm sure Beavers guys release the fish too. The leasing is all about the money. The landowner could care less about the fish. Pa. will have to put up money to match the obscene amounts of Beaver
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RE: Booooooooooooo
2011/08/21 19:59:39
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Good grief. Beaver has had that lease for how many years now? Get over it. Your FELLOW "fishermen" cost you that spot, NOBODY else. But by all means, threaten, or cause grief for this landowner, and or her "tenant". You could very well find a much larger section of said stream off limits. In fact it's d@mned close to being gone now, and "the beav" has nothing to do with it.
post edited by spoonchucker - 2011/08/21 20:01:37
Get Informed, Get Involved, And Make A Difference. Step Up, or Step Aside The next time you say "Somebody should do something", remember that YOU are somebody. GL
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RE: Booooooooooooo
2011/08/21 22:58:54
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ORIGINAL: S-10
A "good" flyfisherman will outfish the bait guys for both steelies and pelletheads but bait will work, sometimes very well.
An average bait fisherman will outfish an excellent fly fisherman 9 times out of 10 because, you know, fish prefer to eat foods that look, smell, and taste like something they'd eat naturally.
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RE: Booooooooooooo
2011/08/21 23:00:19
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Somebody will have to explain to me why artificial lures with nasty barbed treble hooks on them would be o.k. for a stream and a simple hook with a worm on it would be treated like a nuisance.
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RE: Booooooooooooo
2011/08/21 23:02:32
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ORIGINAL: Wally Cat
Just throwing out another thought: "Fly fishing only, barbless hooks, catch and immediate release only" for all posted sections of any given steelhead stream, or a slightly modified form of that to accommodate the land owner and his immediate family. Saves the fish to be caught elsewhere on open sections of stream. This may also curtail some stream side land leases by individuals who profit from the posted properties.
Just food for thought!
So all of the fly fishermen who excessively handle the trout they catch, flop them up on shore to take pictures and post them on this site would no longer be allowed? I'm all in favor of it. Because you know, only bait fishermen kill fish.
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RE: Booooooooooooo
2011/08/21 23:22:44
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ORIGINAL: AndyLee
ORIGINAL: S-10
A "good" flyfisherman will outfish the bait guys for both steelies and pelletheads but bait will work, sometimes very well.
An average bait fisherman will outfish an excellent fly fisherman 9 times out of 10 because, you know, fish prefer to eat foods that look, smell, and taste like something they'd eat naturally.
I'd say im a decent fisherman, but many fly fisherman up in erie have outfished me. And i have watched other fishing with bait be outfished. Somebody will have to explain to me why artificial lures with nasty barbed treble hooks on them would be o.k. for a stream and a simple hook with a worm on it would be treated like a nuisance. 1 people leave their bait containers when they are empty on the sure, and leave packages of hooks and all that, im not saying that people who arent using bait dont do the same, but people with bait have more to leave. 2 even though it only has one hook on it, when live bait is taken it has a greater chance at being swallowed than a moving lure or fly causing more harm to the fish
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RE: Booooooooooooo
2011/08/22 11:17:29
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ORIGINAL: Dr. Trout
I did not think guys fished with live bait for steelies ???????
The sad thing is, you're serious. What, no steelhead fishing within a 10 -15 mile radius of the old home corn pile?
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RE: Booooooooooooo
2011/08/22 13:24:21
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even though it only has one hook on it, when live bait is taken it has a greater chance at being swallowed than a moving lure or fly causing more harm to the fish
As a guy who has extensively fly, bait, and lure fished for 30+ years I can say that I have had plenty of flies swallowed over the years. Probably a similar percentage to the amount of baited hooks. Personally I use the same hooks when I tie flies and use bait, so what in the world is the big difference? Lures, by FAR, do the most damage to a fish. Put on a Joe's Fly, Rapala, Rooster Tail etc... and then tell me how badly that fish gets hooked with all of the treble hooks in it and how long it takes to free it. That is what really chaps my****about Artificial Only areas.
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RE: Booooooooooooo
2011/08/22 14:00:11
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I dont do alot of fly fishing, but i do fish alot with live bait, and artificial baits. Most of the time i can get a lure out of the mouth of a fish before i can get a hook that had bait on it out
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RE: Booooooooooooo
2011/08/22 16:42:35
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RE: Booooooooooooo
2011/08/22 23:11:20
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I wish they would do that with one of the Erie streams. I'll bet it would have the cleanest banks, and good numbers of fish. I think 20 mile would b a good choice.
The upper end of Chautauqua Creek is posted the same way. Parking area and path to the creek
Isn't it even more restrictive? Only flies, one hook?
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RE: Booooooooooooo
2011/08/23 07:17:37
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Even Better!
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RE: Booooooooooooo
2011/08/23 07:25:01
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Finally, we get a pic posted by Doc Troot that is actually mostly in focus!
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RE: Booooooooooooo
2011/08/23 08:08:52
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If you read my post you would have seen I did not take it axx --- 
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RE: Booooooooooooo
2011/08/23 08:15:42
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ORIGINAL: Cold
Finally, we get a pic posted by Doc Troot that is actually mostly in focus!
He didn't take it.
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