beerman
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Steelhead Predictions ~ Fall 2011
Im curious to read of those that have an opinion about
the steelhead run coming in the next 4 or 5 weeks.
Remember we had a very wet and late spring and a hot and dry summer,
so far......what do you predict?
changes in latitudes, changes in attitudes....nothing remains quite the same The Beerman ~ Greg
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Mr.Slickfish
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RE: Steelhead Predictions ~ Fall 2011
2011/08/17 07:33:35
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My crystal ball says late run....(of fish)
The duuds will still b there.
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RE: Steelhead Predictions ~ Fall 2011
2011/08/17 07:35:14
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I'm afraid there will be more people than fish.
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RE: Steelhead Predictions ~ Fall 2011
2011/08/17 07:35:53
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Good to great year, as long as you know where to fish for them. Hint- not all the fish go UP the streams. This past spring was very good for younger steelys(20-24 inchers). Some guys averaged 8-10 silvers a morning, for weeks.
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RE: Steelhead Predictions ~ Fall 2011
2011/08/17 08:16:54
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Based on the reports I've been getting from friends with boats who are trolling right now I'd say a poor year, with a late run. Weather is going to have to cool down a lot, and there will have to be sufficient COLD rain to bring temps down to the comfort range for there to be any sizeable run. BUT I predict there will be quite a few fish just off the mouths and cruising the shores from about mid Sept on. A good rule of thumb is when the creeks mouths are totally blown out at least once by cold rains, the run will start.
Also, I'm predicting that some jacks will come in by the 5th of Sept. And there will be more fishermen than fish on the lower reaches of the creeks.
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RE: Steelhead Predictions ~ Fall 2011
2011/08/17 09:16:31
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My prediction is... They will be running like a "Rainbow in the Dark"
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deetz4352
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RE: Steelhead Predictions ~ Fall 2011
2011/08/17 18:22:34
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I predict that I will be catching steelhead this fall. How many per outing....well...that is yet to be determined.
Truthfully I think numbers will be down from years past.
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RE: Steelhead Predictions ~ Fall 2011
2011/08/17 18:48:53
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I'm afraid that more of the same runs from the last 2-3 yrs is likely. It been on a downward trend for numbers since I moved to Erie 4 yrs ago. I can't imagine it turning around in only 1 year. So my guess is about the same as last year. Hoping for a few more though. Unfortunately the crowds have not reduced proportionally.
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RE: Steelhead Predictions ~ Fall 2011
2011/08/18 09:19:42
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I predict that I'll catch a chub at the One Fly, and be happy about it... 
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RE: Steelhead Predictions ~ Fall 2011
2011/08/18 09:53:02
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ORIGINAL: bulldog1
I predict that I'll catch a chub at the One Fly, and be happy about it...
Just don't feel obligated to show your chub to anyone. 
The poster formally known as Duncsdad Everything I say can be fully substantiated by my own opinion.
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kingnuke32
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RE: Steelhead Predictions ~ Fall 2011
2011/08/18 11:03:38
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There will be more feesh than the erie tribs can handle, they guys who know how to catch them will and the guys who only catch them when the MOTHERLODE is in won't.
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RE: Steelhead Predictions ~ Fall 2011
2011/08/18 12:44:41
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ok it was just im april that there were post of hundreds of jacks around the lighthouse guys were going to catch them just for fun. The fish are there the problem isnt the fish. Its the increasing crowds. I love fishing and Ill walk miles just to avoid a crowd because i love to be on the water. Lets face it everyone is saying the last few years the run hasnt been the same ok I can agree but what people are not looking at is the weather has been messed up for the past 4 or five years. We are having late winters spring isnt starting till may and summer temps are going later in the year plus the rain fall lets not get on that I mean we had flooding rains in may and june then july and aug we are watching for droughts and wildfires. If we get a good fall rain that keep the tribs steady with water you will see better runs thats it in a nutshell. peace out
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RE: Steelhead Predictions ~ Fall 2011
2011/08/18 21:24:01
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The numbers are going to be lower than last year. This fishery is broke but no one wants to admit it. I have been fishing these fish out of Erieau and Wheatley the last 6 years. This summer was the worst ever. Yeah there were some days where a few guys put up some numbers. You never had to search them out, they were everywhere. We had some days where they came at will and you couldnt keep 2 rods in the water. When fish numbers decline the fish that are around are much bigger. Biggest average steel I have seen this summer. Same thing going on in Lake Michigan, there have been plant cutbacks and BIG Kings are the norm right now. Their fishery isnt broke, they simply are not planting as many fish. The PA fishery is broke. You cannot plant 2.3 million steel in 3 states and not have bonzai fishing, unless there is a problem. 2 years ago I noticed the motherlode was missing. Despite the low numbers me and a buddy hooked 104 on a November day. The following day we hooked 55. Not the norm for the season. What happened to all the fish? I called PA fisheries people and they were not aware of a problem. I emailed a bioligst and got no response. I dont have any answers, just questions that no wants to address. Regardless, I will still be on the tribs looking for fish. Probably still better than trying to catch Michigan steel. Besides, PA is alot closer for me. I can hear some of you guys now defending your fishery and gents you are part of the problem. Just so you know I am not some weekend warrior who fishes 2 days a season. I fish weekdays and fish 2-3 days a week. As a PA license holder who travels to your state for only 1 reason, steel, I want some answers. WHERE did the fish GO?
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kingnuke32
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RE: Steelhead Predictions ~ Fall 2011
2011/08/18 21:26:35
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We roped em all! 
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RE: Steelhead Predictions ~ Fall 2011
2011/08/18 22:50:13
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Very late run due to abnormally warm lake temperatures with very low numbers of fish. It is hard to imagine a year worse than last year but the 2011-2012 season could bottom out this down cycle.
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RE: Steelhead Predictions ~ Fall 2011
2011/08/18 23:00:09
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my theory based on what I have witnessed over the past 6 years:
1. Walleye population goes up, steelhead population goes down.
2. Less fish are being stocked and more people are fishing during spring (leads to more smolts being hooked and killed)
3. More people keeping fish. It is a put and take fishery but many of these fish can be caught many times while they are in the stream. You cant catch them from a freezer.
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RE: Steelhead Predictions ~ Fall 2011
2011/08/18 23:24:30
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I think there will be tons of steelies in the crick this yr. it should be a good season. will catch many.
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RE: Steelhead Predictions ~ Fall 2011
2011/08/18 23:39:25
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beerman
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RE: Steelhead Predictions ~ Fall 2011
2011/08/19 00:00:27
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Well stated, Esox_Hunter, about the consistent numbers of steelies
stocked in PA from year to year the past ten years.
changes in latitudes, changes in attitudes....nothing remains quite the same The Beerman ~ Greg
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RE: Steelhead Predictions ~ Fall 2011
2011/08/19 13:14:52
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ORIGINAL: topdog99
it doesnt matter if they stock 10 million...
lots of things can happen to a smolt once it is released in the wild...
they are not thriving like they did 10,12,15 years ago and the walleye are not to blame...trust me
hope this helpa
Our Friends to the North and West reap the benefits of our overly stocked waters...
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RE: Steelhead Predictions ~ Fall 2011
2011/08/19 13:40:15
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The weather, as always, will be the determining factor....then you plug in Nukes theory after that...DONE.
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RE: Steelhead Predictions ~ Fall 2011
2011/08/19 14:41:54
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There will once again be so many fish. That even the guys using a 1/4 jar glob of powerbait, on a #4 treble, and 3/4oz anchor tied to 20lb mono will catch more than a few.
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RE: Steelhead Predictions ~ Fall 2011
2011/08/19 14:43:55
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there will be more than enough for me. i make it up maybe twice and i only want to take one home.
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steeLpunishment
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RE: Steelhead Predictions ~ Fall 2011
2011/08/19 14:46:48
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i dont know about pa steel problem but i catch a ton about every time im there.
in ny its different water thats bigger and the steel can be a pain to find. still plenty for all that know how to smash them
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RE: Steelhead Predictions ~ Fall 2011
2011/08/19 16:17:27
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I don't care how many fish there are, there will be some and that is plenty for me.
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steeLpunishment
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RE: Steelhead Predictions ~ Fall 2011
2011/08/19 17:55:16
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whats the limit on steelhead in pa?
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RE: Steelhead Predictions ~ Fall 2011
2011/08/19 20:14:41
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I am sure Glen, Plumbob, and Bings will not have any problems finding any!!! Looking forward to their daily pics!!!
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RE: Steelhead Predictions ~ Fall 2011
2011/08/19 21:18:14
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I am sure Glen, Plumbob, and Bings will not have any problems finding any!!! Looking forward to their daily pics!!!
seconded , them guys put in the time and I love to see their posts. Makes me day dream about a bent pole and screaming reels with a torpedo on the hook
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RE: Steelhead Predictions ~ Fall 2011
2011/08/20 11:36:06
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Predictions:
Fish will be there
People will catch fish from boat, sitting in chairs, wading in lake, and wading in stream
Live bait, tied feathers, and glued yarn will catch fish
People will keep fish
People will release fish
People will complain about the opportunity to catch stocked fish
I know these predictions are golden!
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RE: Steelhead Predictions ~ Fall 2011
2011/08/20 12:04:45
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I think there will be enough fish to fish for but slow like the last few years. Of course there will be the same guys posting about their 50 fish mornings.
Hook a few, land a couple, rig up some kid and watch him catch one, and you had a good day.
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