Looks like I should have kept scrolling...did waxworm just answer my question? Good luck with crowds when this is complete. Will there be "ladder nuts" now?

Maybe because they have free maintenance on the ladders the golf course crew is taking care of the ladder and chute if and they do get plugged up with debris. I know they've cleaned out the ladder at least twice from branches being lodged in the ladder.

There is also the possibility for public access there and not along other streams.

Skip thanks for the clarification. I have walked some of 4mile creek, but not all of it. I hope it works.

ORIGINAL: cbeagler

ORIGINAL: topdog99

I think a fish ladder above manchester hole(aka chutes) would have served the fisherman and fish better...


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I would like to see that too. But something tells me that if that was the only problem we would have seen fish stacked at that hole trying to get up.

That is exactly the point I was trying to make in my previous post.
There haven't been fish stacked at the dam in 5 years. Why would they magically be attracted to the ladder now. I hope I'm wrong...........time will tell.

The fish have no problem at all getting over the falls on Walnut Creek during periods of high or even relativly high water. During the fall runs of 2007 and 2008 there were literally hunderds of fish piled in several different locations above the falls. I personally walked one stretch of stream (back in 2008) several miles above the falls and encountered at least a half a dozen pods of 50-100 fish and several smaller pods in between. The problem is that the last couple of years the runs have been so poor on Walnut creek (at least when compared to past years) that there simply aren't the numbers entering the creek that we saw prior to the fall of 2009. You know it is an off year for Walnut Creek when in November there are only 100 to 200 fish in manchester hole or 20 to 30 in the stop sign hole like their was last year at that time. The smaller the runs entering the creek, the less fish you will see above the falls. As poor as the runs have been the past two years, there were still enough fish above the falls to make for a decent day of fishing but you had to work for them and be willing to walk a relatively long distance in some locations to find them.

ORIGINAL: indsguiz
 I watched one guy stand at the top of the falls and for about an hour and he kicked every fish trying to come up, that he could reach, back down. Real sportsman that one.

That's OK, I was down there at midnight netting them and tossing them up. 

Imma kick ur turd all the way down to the lake so the stank will push some fish upstream. If turds attract steel, anyone tie turd sacs? How bout a turd dry fly? Anyone die their turd bloo first?

Learn sumthin new every day... will do cold