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pretty...

why not a group shot while we're at it...

i'm going to continue to post as much as possible on this thread as others should as well... it should be a priority to keep this one on the top... tight lines folks...


oh yeah; gotta thank the slammer for pushing me to run out and buy some materials... i cant wait to get my hands on my other materials that are 260 miles away from me right now...
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tuna; thank you for your input... i have never really actively used or tied patterns of these sorts. i dont see why they wouldnt work. i had no intentions of tying them until i sat down and started. and thats where it all started. i'm hooked now thats the way i am typically. as ive said earlier on, most times i always try something new when sitting down to tie flies. i have known guys who fish patterns like these for steelhead and do very well. my intentions with these flies are more or less to target steelhead in late fall/early winter months. i'm sure wednick will like these as ive heard him comment about using a popsicle for salmon often. for salmon though, i use yarn wads and larger sucker spawn type thingamabobbers and i do just fine with those. for steel and browns i get a little more creative; but also sometimes fish very simple patterns like nymphs that are dubbing body with a fat dubbing head and nothing else...

now; the clumping of maribou??? i disagree a little on that one. if you were to put one of these flie in your sink they pulsate and keep up to 60% of their form. notice that i palmered hen or saddle feathers sporadically on the shank. this helps the fly keep its form. when taken out of the water it becomes skinny and clumpy. but when in water it looks alive...

for the split shot; i would maybe try a sink tip with these guys in particular. but i would have no problem with adding small splits to get it down. not on the bottom though. my approach and target with these would definitely be in the last 25% of my drift so added weight on the leader would help the fly get down just enough in the water column as it is being swung on a total downstream swing/drift...

lastly, i am really lookiing forward to our outing on the 18th, but honestly i would look even more forward to an outing in late october-late december while fishing these maribou patterns for steel. then again in january-february for some winterized steelies... as most know, those are my favorite times... i'd have no sorrow at all if the chinooks disappeared and it was only steelies in this fishery. i love them and when it comes to fly tying, i thoroughly enjoy experimenting with all different types of patterns and methods...

next step i've gotta get my hands on some calf tails and stiffer synthetics to start tying some up like you do. just give me some time.

As for the marabou.. yup when you put it in a glass of water it comes alive.. But that’s Stillwater.. When it gets in moving water or you strip it, then it clumps.. It will pulsate on the stop but generally the retrieve or in moving water it stays kinda stuck together.. Just from what I have found..

materials:
I have a **** ton of synthetics, some calf tail and other things that are new un-opened that I don’t use.. You would be surprised (maybe not) at some of the things I have gotten as "tips" when guiding..
I will post a picture of some tomorrow & bring a bunch along for anyone who wants to take some..

Now tuna; don't make me record my flies on a line in water while moving andthen post them up

For the bead above the maribou streamer... my intent is to show a "large fish" a smaller creature chasing an "egg" that the "large fish" may want... the choice is all in the fishes hand

ORIGINAL: dimebrite

For the bead above the maribou streamer... my intent is to show a "large fish" a smaller creature chasing an "egg" that the "large fish" may want... the choice is all in the fishes hand

why not just use an egg-sucking leech pattern?

Here's one tied with a material that has  great pulsation  and movement in the water- ostrich herl. A friend and I started tying with  it for sightfishing  fussy stripers, I've used it on carp flies , smallmouth Clousers, and some trout fry patterns. Might work for salmon, later in the year for dropbacks.
 
Charlie

ORIGINAL: dimebrite

Now tuna; don't make me record my flies on a line in water while moving andthen post them up

For the bead above the maribou streamer... my intent is to show a "large fish" a smaller creature chasing an "egg" that the "large fish" may want... the choice is all in the fishes hand

No need to bro, I have an 18x30' in ground pool where everything gets sight tested.. Which made me go out and re test a long webby Marabou fly just so I didn’t eat my hat..
In still water the thing is truly alive, on a slow strip it still retains about 75 % shape and mass.. On a fast strip in still water it started to become very thin with little pulsation. Now I turned the pump on and put it out by the jet(no not right in front of it), It was a total thin clump stuck to the hook..
I guess I can take video and my camera works underwater if one really wants...

So I took another fly (the one I posted) and did the same experiment, the results were better given the tips were not as long and it was palmed on the hook like a bugger, but still in the current it obviously lost it's size ,shape & pulsation.

I'll just stick with stiffer materials..
This was only a suggestion

Now to bead or not to bead, that is the question.. LMAO..

Tuna, just planning on heading out to buy some fall tying mateial...i'll take what you don't want...i'll swap some tied and true steelie flies for some material.

You can drop off to me where I stay on the SR when your there or we can meet maybe at the dsr lot or something....just pm me

thanks
tight lines

OldSalt

still water

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this one says it all...

this one here is for you drake... had time to spin another one up...

now now tuna, that striper looks like it was flossed...lmao...

no questions at all; nice ties and fishies...

also, thanks to everyone who has been keeping this thread going... your guys efforts were enough to get me up and start tying again...

later