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RE: Mouse on a hook
2011/07/29 08:52:49
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wade...thanks for checking to find out that it's legal. With that being said what's so cruel about it? Mice swim normally, they are used as bait for snakes, and even in the wild mice get eaten by fish. If there's no hook going through the thing then where does it become cruel?
I'm still wondering why there's a distinction between a mouse (live, living animal) and a minnow (live, living animal)....where one is perfectly acceptable and the other isn't.
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RE: Mouse on a hook
2011/07/29 09:13:45
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ORIGINAL: wade alexander
esox hunter whats up with being a **** ?Â
if you need to rig mice up to boost your ego or something thats awesome, your the man
called this morning out of curiosity and it is legal apparently
I don't know but threatening to punch people in the face for using legal bait sounds kinda like PETA tactics... They are only mice and legal bait so where's the problem....
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wade alexander
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RE: Mouse on a hook
2011/07/29 09:22:58
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its not legal in all states for one. minnows and suckers arent considered pets, i know they sell feeder mice but pple also keep them as pets same as ginea pigs sp? ect... id think its also generally frowned upon.i also dont see any bait shops carrying mice or other mammals for bait... like i said tho i just ordered a tiger because im having a rough time catching musky this yr... hopefully they can get ahold of one for me ;)p its a grey area bing, its legal to do alot of things does that make it right, not always
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RE: Mouse on a hook
2011/07/29 12:04:30
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ORIGINAL: wade alexander
if you need to rig mice up to boost your ego or something thats awesome, your the man
Dang, you got me there. Now if you don't mind, I am off to train the cat to only cripple the mice, instead of decapitating them. They seem to get a much more enticing action in the water that way. You two be sure to have fun at your meeting 
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RE: Mouse on a hook
2011/07/29 12:15:39
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hrmm to hell with the mice use a rat they are bigger anyways. and usually easier to handle
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RE: Mouse on a hook
2011/07/29 12:49:41
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What is ethically different between using a mouse vs. frog, salamander, fish for bait??? I've never used a mouse for bait and dont plan to, but why is it any worse than "torturing" other creatures to catch a fish?
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RE: Mouse on a hook
2011/07/29 13:15:55
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BenC,
It only matters to the card carrying PETA members on the board. I'll make sure to catch and release my next deer: wonder if my bow can shoot a lasso arrow?
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RE: Mouse on a hook
2011/07/29 14:13:50
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ORIGINAL: topdog99
ORIGINAL: bingsbaits
ORIGINAL: wade alexander
esox hunter whats up with being a **** ?Â
if you need to rig mice up to boost your ego or something thats awesome, your the man
called this morning out of curiosity and it is legal apparently
They are only mice and legal bait so where's the problem....
the poser king speaks, really? (someone had to say it)
lost cause
stick to bad mouthin' the amish dude...
And you can pack your PETA card where the sun don't shine..
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RE: Mouse on a hook
2011/07/29 14:25:50
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i wonder if KMP uses mice?
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RE: Mouse on a hook
2011/07/29 14:27:11
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"There is a pleasure in Angling that no one knows but the Angler himself". WB
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RE: Mouse on a hook
2011/07/29 14:34:38
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the poser king speaks, really? (someone had to say it)
lost cause
stick to bad mouthin' the amish dude...
Now THIS I want to have explained. Poser? Seriously? Please...indulge us.
post edited by mohawksyd - 2011/07/29 14:35:01
"For the supreme test of a fisherman is not how many fish he has caught...but what he has caught when he has caught no fish." - John H. Bradley
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wade alexander
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RE: Mouse on a hook
2011/07/29 16:57:04
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i dont know anyone who actually uses mice as bait... i was just shocked its actually legal. im not a peta nut either. its legal thats all i really wanted to know
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RE: Mouse on a hook
2011/07/30 07:35:21
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Nobody here puts a litter of pups on an umbrella rig?
Absolute power corrupts absolutely. The closer we adhere to the Holy Bible and the US Constitution (as it was written) the closer we get to the model that made America great. The great American experiment worked, human nature just got in the way.
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RE: Mouse on a hook
2011/07/30 08:53:59
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RE: Mouse on a hook
2011/07/30 10:30:28
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Them thar tunas love kittens on the umbrella rig...puppies, not so much.
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RE: Mouse on a hook
2011/07/31 13:16:29
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That explains my mediocre success. I'm going to try baby bunnies next, you know, the ones with the big sad eyes.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely. The closer we adhere to the Holy Bible and the US Constitution (as it was written) the closer we get to the model that made America great. The great American experiment worked, human nature just got in the way.
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RE: Mouse on a hook
2011/08/01 13:47:38
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ORIGINAL: wade alexander
i dont know anyone who actually uses mice as bait... i was just shocked its actually legal. im not a peta nut either. its legal thats all i really wanted to know
behind the times in both camo and fishing. It's okay buddy. You should really watch the kamchatka video; google it. Why you would hook an actual mouse is beyond me. There are fly patterns for such applications.
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RE: Mouse on a hook
2011/08/01 18:25:21
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im not really sure what your point is flyfishing... dont think anyone was talking about flys
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RE: Mouse on a hook
2011/08/02 08:03:39
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I see we have the PETA mouse defenders out in force, where are the PETA earthworm, minnow and cricket defenders??
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RE: Mouse on a hook
2011/08/02 09:03:16
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In the fly fishing forum I guess...
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RE: Mouse on a hook
2011/08/02 10:56:03
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wade,
my point is, there are mouse flies. Who in the heck traps/buys mice, puts them in a container, and then threads a hook through them. Remember... dirty fingernails equals yeast infections. I can't imagine what mouse could do to the v.
I can hear ol' billy joe now, "I got him Betty, the peanut butter chunks worked, not the spread, looks like we gon' be having bass for dinner tonight let me tell you. I'm headin' on out, we'll see ya 'round 9 baby, whoo."
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RE: Mouse on a hook
2011/08/02 12:39:35
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I see we have the PETA mouse defenders out in force, where are the PETA earthworm, minnow and cricket defenders??
sshhhhhh... dont give PETA any ideas.
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RE: Mouse on a hook
2011/08/02 16:44:40
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wade,
my point is, there are mouse flies. Who in the heck traps/buys mice, puts them in a container, and then threads a hook through them. Remember... dirty fingernails equals yeast infections. I can't imagine what mouse could do to the v.
I can hear ol' billy joe now, "I got him Betty, the peanut butter chunks worked, not the spread, looks like we gon' be having bass for dinner tonight let me tell you. I'm headin' on out, we'll see ya 'round 9 baby, whoo."
lol ya... which pretty well describes the kind of people that use mice for fishing
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RE: Mouse on a hook
2011/08/03 10:50:17
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ORIGINAL: wade alexander
ORIGINAL: FlyFishingPenrod
wade,
my point is, there are mouse flies. Who in the heck traps/buys mice, puts them in a container, and then threads a hook through them. Remember... dirty fingernails equals yeast infections. I can't imagine what mouse could do to the v.
I can hear ol' billy joe now, "I got him Betty, the peanut butter chunks worked, not the spread, looks like we gon' be having bass for dinner tonight let me tell you. I'm headin' on out, we'll see ya 'round 9 baby, whoo."
lol ya... which pretty well describes the kind of people that use mice for fishing
ur just jealous you never thought of it, peta boy! 
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RE: Mouse on a hook
2011/08/03 10:56:23
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"I see we have the PETA mouse defenders out in force, where are the PETA earthworm, minnow and cricket defenders??"
"In the fly fishing forum I guess..."
hahaha that was pretty funny. F all mice in the face. That being said, I dont think I could put one on a hook, nor do I want to. They give me the HeebEeJeEbeES!
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RE: Mouse on a hook
2011/08/03 11:18:47
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Tull -"I'm going to try baby bunnies next, you know, the ones with the big sad eyes." Laughed till it hurt! I know they are significantly lower on the cuteness scale but do you thing groundhogs would work?  I got a couple behind the church I want to get rid of. 
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RE: Mouse on a hook
2011/08/03 12:08:37
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RE: Mouse on a hook
2011/08/03 14:05:52
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Absolute power corrupts absolutely. The closer we adhere to the Holy Bible and the US Constitution (as it was written) the closer we get to the model that made America great. The great American experiment worked, human nature just got in the way.
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RE: Mouse on a hook
2011/08/03 14:27:08
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Gentlemen, use common sense. The reason why mice are not use as bait is because it is not practical to do so. Rather they are a good bait for fishing or not, bait shops will not keep them in stock because they're to expensive to sell. Minnows run about 2-3 dollars a dozen, worms sell about 2 dollars for 2 dozen and maggots about $1 a container. Mice, I'm guessing will be around $5 or more for a few of them. After awhile, most will go back to buying minnows again.
What are you going to do with the mice that's left over at the end of the day, "Let them go." You can't keep them very long. If you take them home, you gotta feed them. We throw our left over minnows in the water, we can't keep them, they'll die and smell up the house. Have you ever had a dead minnow in your car. I have, it's not a good thing. The minnows will reproduce in the lakes and you will see schools of thousands swimming around. The same will happen with the mice that you let go. Now you have a mice infestation. Your wife will love you for that.
Can you see where I am going with this? Does it make sense to anyone? Another thing is why is this subject on this board?
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RE: Mouse on a hook
2011/08/03 17:51:24
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SmMouthSeeker, read the first post.....WF
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