Erie paper article on SH

ORIGINAL: wayne c

Then throws the deer decimation arguement out there

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And the problem with that is what? For or against Sunday hunting, the man has a point like it or not.

"Because the bill doesn't add a Sunday to deer seasons. "

It remains a highly mis-understood issue.

Lets face it, many hunters don't follow this stuff that closely. The majority that I run into on a daily basis at work do not understand the in and outs of the Sunday hunting issue

Sunday hunting could produce no hunting at all on private lands
Wednesday, July 20, 2011

State Rep. John Evans of Erie appears to be unbespectacled in his Web page portrait. He might wear contact lenses. If he does, surely they are rose-colored.
How else to explain this impossibly Pollyannaish quote from Sunday's Patriot-News in Harrisburg, in a Don Gilliland story about the state-level debate over allowing hunting on Sundays?
"If you don't want Sunday hunting on your land," Evans said, "all you have to do is post your land 'No Sunday Hunting.' It's that simple."
And just who, pray tell, is going to enforce those postings?
State police? Hah. They'll say it's a Game Commission matter.
The Game Commission? Double Hah. Dead deer lie around for days, for weeks sometimes, before the Game Commission or PennDOT do anything about them.
The reality is that farmers and others who now open their lands to Monday-Saturday hunting are vehemently opposed to Sunday hunting for reasons ranging from religious principles to the simple desire to have one day a week free from "Bam!" and pickup trucks blocking driveways, strangers flouting the get-permission principle, etc.
They won't post "No Sunday Hunting," because getting it enforced is next to impossible. If enforcement does occur, the penalties are wrist-slaps. And let's remember, the trespassers who brazenly ignore "Posted against hunting" signs are all carrying deadly weapons. Confrontation and demands that the intruders leave do carry a real risk of escalation, and it only takes one shot to leave someone eternally dead.
Those among us who object will simply post our land against all hunting. That prohibition does get enforced, because there are seven days a week in which to enforce it.
Rep. Evans cites the overly optimistic forecasts of the National Rifle Association and the National Shooting Sports Foundation. To listen to them, we might be gulled into thinking that our taxes would actually go down as out-of-state hunters shower billions in bullion upon our touristy marketers.
Won't happen.
Instead, want-to-hunt visitors will have the disagreeable experiences of having no land on which to hunt.
The Legislature should reject the idea of Sunday hunting or restrict it to state-owned lands.
- Denny Bonavita

Public Opinion Online

Apparently, 103 days out of every year -- including 18 Saturdays -- just isn't enough for some Pennsylvania deer hunters.

That's the number of days deer hunting is allowed each year in Pennsylvania, but some hunters and a bunch of firearm and sportsmens' lobbies are still trying to legalize deer hunting on Sundays.
The state House Game and Fisheries Committee conducted the first of three public hearings Thursday at Seven Springs Resort to air the pros and cons of expanding Pennsylvania hunting to Sundays.

Opposition to the change came from the Pennsylvania Farm Bureau and the Humane Society of the United States.

The National Shooting Sports Foundation, National Rifle Association, U.S. Sportsmen's Alliance and Pennsylvania Federation of Sportsmen's Clubs were also invited to testify.

Joel Rotz, Pennsylvania Farm Bureau, echoed our long standing position that six days a week for hunting is enough.

Rotz said 80 percent of landowners -- mostly farmers -- oppose Sunday hunting, according to a 2005 survey performed by the Pennsylvania Legislative Budget and Finance Committee.

"What's most frustrating to farmers in this debate is the arrogance of the assumption that privately owned land should be available to hunters seven days a week with no recognition to the fact that farms are businesses as well as family homes," he said.

And aside from the nuisances encountered by landowners, there are also valid concerns from other outdoor recreation enthusiasts. We hope, for instance, that hikers, bicyclists and equestrians and their representative organizations are also invited to weigh in on these hearings.
Hunters are not the only outdoor enthusiasts to consider here.

As usual, the impetus for the years-long debate is money. The primary sponsor of the legislation in question, Rep. John R. Evans, R-Erie, claimed that Sunday tourism dollars will be lost to Pennsylvania, because of Sunday hunting in bordering Ohio and New York.

But that's a very small number of people and a comparatively tiny geographic range to be considered much of an economic development opportunity. No, the economic development angle is mostly just cover for the firearm lobbyists who chafe at being told when they can and cannot use their guns.
Well, tough. It's only one day.

If six days a week can't provide enough chances to bag that deer, maybe the window of opportunity isn't the real problem.
-- By Matthew Major, opinion editor and member of Public Opinion's editorial board

ORIGINAL: Dr. Trout

And = Here's an article from a local paper (DuBois) ==

Sunday hunting could produce no hunting at all on private lands
Wednesday, July 20, 2011

State Rep. John Evans of Erie appears to be unbespectacled in his Web page portrait. He might wear contact lenses. If he does, surely they are rose-colored.
How else to explain this impossibly Pollyannaish quote from Sunday's Patriot-News in Harrisburg, in a Don Gilliland story about the state-level debate over allowing hunting on Sundays?
"If you don't want Sunday hunting on your land," Evans said, "all you have to do is post your land 'No Sunday Hunting.' It's that simple."
And just who, pray tell, is going to enforce those postings?
State police? Hah. They'll say it's a Game Commission matter.
The Game Commission? Double Hah. Dead deer lie around for days, for weeks sometimes, before the Game Commission or PennDOT do anything about them.
The reality is that farmers and others who now open their lands to Monday-Saturday hunting are vehemently opposed to Sunday hunting for reasons ranging from religious principles to the simple desire to have one day a week free from "Bam!" and pickup trucks blocking driveways, strangers flouting the get-permission principle, etc.
They won't post "No Sunday Hunting," because getting it enforced is next to impossible. If enforcement does occur, the penalties are wrist-slaps. And let's remember, the trespassers who brazenly ignore "Posted against hunting" signs are all carrying deadly weapons. Confrontation and demands that the intruders leave do carry a real risk of escalation, and it only takes one shot to leave someone eternally dead.
Those among us who object will simply post our land against all hunting. That prohibition does get enforced, because there are seven days a week in which to enforce it.
Rep. Evans cites the overly optimistic forecasts of the National Rifle Association and the National Shooting Sports Foundation. To listen to them, we might be gulled into thinking that our taxes would actually go down as out-of-state hunters shower billions in bullion upon our touristy marketers.
Won't happen.
Instead, want-to-hunt visitors will have the disagreeable experiences of having no land on which to hunt.
The Legislature should reject the idea of Sunday hunting or restrict it to state-owned lands.
- Denny Bonavita

ORIGINAL: pikepredator2


Public Opinion Online

"Apparently, 103 days out of every year -- including 18 Saturdays -- just isn't enough for some Pennsylvania deer hunters.

That's the number of days deer hunting is allowed each year in Pennsylvania, but some hunters and a bunch of firearm and sportsmens' lobbies are still trying to legalize deer hunting on Sundays."


The 103 days of deer hunting availability is correct, but a tad misleading.  If my cipherin is correct, using page 11 of the PA hunting digest and a calendar, 35 of these 103 days are only available in WMUs 2B, 5C, & 5D, and not state-wide. So for the vast majority of deer hunters, there are 68 days of available deer hunting, unless you hold tags for these 3 WMUs.

ORIGINAL: retired guy

  The message is clear- confront a Sunday hunter ya might get murdered.
Thats clear ANTI in anybodys book- just perpetuating the myth of those crazies out there carrying guns.