Well I would also try Quantum hot sauce. Its the best reel oil by far in my opinion. It makes a whirling noise as you reel in right. I use it for trout mostly. I dont reel in for a long time. Also I will reel it unspooled under scalding hot water then oil and grease it and really gob it on there. I think it is smooth but if you use it a lot I'd oil quite often and you can tell when its wearing, its not as severe as the quantum but noticeable.