2011-2012 PA Hunting Digest ???????????

I picked up a new Hunting and Trapping digest and found a few thing to be confusing.

#1 on pg 17 it says under scents and lures that contain any form of natural or artificial food stuff, including but not limited to, corn apples and acorns are not legal.

Does this mean that cover scents that are made are illegal such as HS Strut acorn scent wafers or liquid?

#2 on pg 31 under bow and arrow equipment. A projectile shot from a bow with an overall length exceeding the brace height of the bow with fletching design only for guidness at the aft end and a broadhead mounted on the fore end. No electronic tracking devise should be part of or attacked to the arrow.

Does this mean that FOBs and Luminocks are illegal ?

RSB is this true?? why does it change every year. I also saw nothing that states a field tip in the quiver is legal.

It would of been nice to go to the PGC site and review the new 2011-2012 hunting and trapping digest but it does not exist.

OMG...

I can not even begin to believe what OA just posted.. what world does this guy live in.... ????



#1...

why does it change every year

REALLY changes every year ???


in last years digest on page 17 it states the exact same thing about scents that it does in this years.......

in last years digest on page 31 it states the exact same thing about projectiles....

so what "yearly changes" are you referring too...

#2...

It would of been nice to go to the PGC site and review the new 2011-2012 hunting and trapping digest but it does not exist.

The digest is on the front page on the PGC website on the right side.. has been there since you could start to buy the current license... June 1st... .. you need to visit my site where there is lots of info not just arguements..

I posted a link to it on June 6th...

Once again I ask a simple question and DT has to condemn it ! Are FOBs legal ? Are Luminocks legal ? Are cover scents that smell like apples or acorns solid or liquid legal? Does the book say that it is legal to carry a field tip in your quiver? When you try to open the hunting digest on the PGC site under laws (right corner) it comes up "enterprise portal". The change every year was refered to FOBs and Luminocks. Feel free to flap your lips DT.

The following devices may now be used to hunt or take wildlife: Any
manually operated firearm that uses an electronic impulse to detonate the
primer or main powder charge of the ammunition, unless such firearms are
a specifically prohibited device. Electronic illuminating devices that are
affixed at the aft end of a bolt or arrow and used solely for the purpose of
locating or tracking bolt or arrow flight after being launched from a crossbow
or bow.

That is from the new digest so Lumenoks and similar nocks are allowed according to this.

Lumenox-- Tell me more about them, can you really follow the flight of the arrow and see where it strikes? Both night and day? Do they stay lit so you can find your arrow? How often do they fail? Are they really worth the money. Any answer from anyone appreciated.

Just click on the picture of the 2011-2012 digest ... gheez.. how simple can that be ????

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I picked up a new Hunting and Trapping digest and found a few thing to be confusing.

#1 on pg 17 it says under scents and lures that contain any form of natural or artificial food stuff, including but not limited to, corn apples and acorns are not legal.

Does this mean that cover scents that are made are illegal such as HS Strut acorn scent wafers or liquid?

#2 on pg 31 under bow and arrow equipment. A projectile shot from a bow with an overall length exceeding the brace height of the bow with fletching design only for guidness at the aft end and a broadhead mounted on the fore end. No electronic tracking devise should be part of or attacked to the arrow.

Does this mean that FOBs and Luminocks are illegal ?

RSB is this true?? why does it change every year. I also saw nothing that states a field tip in the quiver is legal.

It would of been nice to go to the PGC site and review the new 2011-2012 hunting and trapping digest but it does not exist.

 
All food scent lures whether solid or liquid are illegal.
 
Lighted nocks are legal.
 
I don’t see a big problem with a person carrying a field point arrow to discharge a crossbow as long as they don’t use it to shoot at any big game.
 
The digest on the Game Commission web site worked fine for me. In fact you can read it in book version or get it in PDF, which ever a person finds easiest to use.  
 
R.S. Bodenhorn

"and how does that equipment distinguish between the apple smell of of a real apple and artificial apple food scent? "

It wouldn't need to differentiate between the two.

"scents and lures that contain any form of natural or artificial food stuff"

I doubt seriously that WCOs are going to go around "sniffing" people. Rather they would simply assume most hunters will abide by the rules. While standing in the lot of a gamelands with a spray bottle in your hand, and an obvious aroma surrounding you. Might draw their attention though.


Look uner the couch. Maybe you'll find an un-picked nit amongst the dust bunnies.

I don’t see a big problem with a person carrying a field point arrow to discharge a crossbow as long as they don’t use it to shoot at any big game.

Nor do I and think it should be legal.

But is it legal according to the digest ? Got a couple deputy dogs around here and the letter of the law is the letter of the law...



Guess I'll have to chuck those Hunters Specialties apple scented plastic wafers...

There is a lot of confusing, misleading, conflicting, debatable, unclear, and difficult to enforce laws, regulations, and details when it comes to PA game laws. I have also been given different answers by different members of law enforcement and game officers when I talk to them and ask questions.

It is pretty cut and dry any commercial scent produced to attract deer wont fly but like I have said before, its basically up to the officer investigating and his discretion as to whether your in the right or not.

There is not and never will be any official statement on where legal ends and illegal begins, there is a gray area when it comes to baiting... If I chew apple skoal and spit whats the difference between that on the ground and apple buck jam?

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I don’t see a big problem with a person carrying a field point arrow to discharge a crossbow as long as they don’t use it to shoot at any big game.

Nor do I and think it should be legal.

But is it legal according to the digest ? Got a couple deputy dogs around here and the letter of the law is the letter of the law...



Guess I'll have to chuck those Hunters Specialties apple scented plastic wafers...

I hear ya Bings. This has been a question asked for a couple of years and still no clarification. All it takes is someone to get cited because a WCO said something was OK and the digest stated otherwise, then that hunter is done with hunting forever.

1 on pg 17 it says under scents and lures that contain any form of natural or artificial food stuff, including but not limited to, corn apples and acorns are not legal.

Isn't it ironic that when they repealed the the use of bait in SRAs they said baiting wasn't effective. But yet they are apparently worried about hunters getting an advantage using food scented lures.

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ORIGINAL: Outdoor Adventures

I picked up a new Hunting and Trapping digest and found a few thing to be confusing.

#1 on pg 17 it says under scents and lures that contain any form of natural or artificial food stuff, including but not limited to, corn apples and acorns are not legal.

Does this mean that cover scents that are made are illegal such as HS Strut acorn scent wafers or liquid?

#2 on pg 31 under bow and arrow equipment. A projectile shot from a bow with an overall length exceeding the brace height of the bow with fletching design only for guidness at the aft end and a broadhead mounted on the fore end. No electronic tracking devise should be part of or attacked to the arrow.

Does this mean that FOBs and Luminocks are illegal ?

RSB is this true?? why does it change every year. I also saw nothing that states a field tip in the quiver is legal.

It would of been nice to go to the PGC site and review the new 2011-2012 hunting and trapping digest but it does not exist.

All food scent lures whether solid or liquid are illegal.
 
Lighted nocks are legal.
 
I don’t see a big problem with a person carrying a field point arrow to discharge a crossbow as long as they don’t use it to shoot at any big game.
 
The digest on the Game Commission web site worked fine for me. In fact you can read it in book version or get it in PDF, which ever a person finds easiest to use.  
 
R.S. Bodenhorn

What about FOBs on an arrow ?

 
What is an FOB?  

"What is an FOB?"


http://www.starrflight.com/

Fletching is the aerodynamic stabilization of arrows or darts with materials such as feathers, each piece of which is referred to as a fletch. The word is related to the French word flèche, meaning "arrow," via Old French; the ultimate root is Frankish fliukka.

As a noun, fletching refers collectively to the fins or vanes, each of which individually is known as a fletch. Traditionally, the fletching consists of three matched half-feathers attached near the back of the arrow or dart's shaft that are equally spaced around its circumference. Today, modern plastics may be used instead. Fletches are traditionally attached with silk thread but simpler methods are also used, such as gluing. The fletching is used to stabilize the arrow through air resistance in flight. Some fletches impart a spin on the projectile, but all are there to impart a drag on the tail of the projectile to ensure that it does not tumble during flight.