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2011/06/13 20:00:10 (permalink)

Early buck pics

Got the first good buck of the year on camera.  Too bad he's in my backyard on not where I can hunt.

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    retired guy
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    RE: Early buck pics 2011/06/13 20:24:56 (permalink)
    Got a coupla those square brown 'overnite delivery'  packages in my backyard up in NY too. Looove to seeum.
    post edited by retired guy - 2011/06/13 20:25:14
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    RE: Early buck pics 2011/06/13 20:39:18 (permalink)
    This has to be one of those BBs I fed in my back yard this winter... my guess is Mommy will be sending him on his way real soon though...



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    RE: Early buck pics 2011/06/14 13:47:18 (permalink)
    There's an early deer season in June? Far out.

    Bet Wayne is opposed though

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    RE: Early buck pics 2011/06/14 18:33:56 (permalink)
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    RE: Early buck pics 2011/06/14 20:49:31 (permalink)
    This has to be one of those BBs I fed in my back yard this winter... my guess is Mommy will be sending him on his way real soon though...


    You must have some good stuff out now for the two of them to be feeding nose to nose in the summer.
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    RE: Early buck pics 2011/06/14 21:03:27 (permalink)
    Mamas boy!

    Absolute power corrupts absolutely. The closer we adhere to the Holy Bible and the US Constitution (as it was written) the closer we get to the model that made America great. The great American experiment worked, human nature just got in the way.
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    RE: Early buck pics 2011/06/14 22:06:46 (permalink)
    They are at a small salt block I use for trail camera pictures in the summer like so many others here do....
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    RE: Early buck pics 2011/06/15 11:28:52 (permalink)

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    They are at a small salt block I use for trail camera pictures in the summer like so many others here do....


    Interesting. So how long is the salt residue present after you bait them ? Do you post the surrounding area say up to a 1/2 mile so in diameter so other hunters don't mistakenly hunt by your baited site ?
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    RE: Early buck pics 2011/06/15 11:49:32 (permalink)
    Nah he just shows them the big PGC tatoo on his arse and they say no problem...

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    RE: Early buck pics 2011/06/15 12:04:09 (permalink)
    Nice pics guys!
     
    We just hung one of our cameras up last week, so hopefully I will have plenty of pictures to share.  We have seen a couple bucks roaming around in the fields that look like they are trying to grow telephone poles out of their heads
     
    Should be another excellent year...
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    RE: Early buck pics 2011/06/15 15:36:33 (permalink)
    salt block is within a hundred yards of my home -- it's a safety zone dummies -- no need to post anything --
    post edited by Dr. Trout - 2011/06/15 15:37:46
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    RE: Early buck pics 2011/06/15 15:50:41 (permalink)
    Interesting how Dr Trout post a pic of deer at a salt block in June and the same old folks have a "field day" critizing.. but here's a post from last year with MANY pictures up and into SEPTEMBER only a few week before the start of archery and there's salt blocks, salt rocks, apples, cocaine, etc, etc..

    http://forums.fishusa.com/m_324255/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm
    post edited by Dr. Trout - 2011/06/15 15:51:49
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    RE: Early buck pics 2011/06/15 16:15:11 (permalink)
    So minerals and corn are legal if they are within a Safety Zone, that's interesting...

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    RE: Early buck pics 2011/06/15 16:25:07 (permalink)
    Plus if it's your own house, and no others within 150 yards or permission from the occupants if they're within 150, you can hunt there. 
     
    Wasn't there a discussion last year about how large of an area a WCO must shut down if there's bait or bait residue?  Subjective to the WCO, but I think I recall maybe up to 500-1000 yards away could get posted?
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    RE: Early buck pics 2011/06/15 17:27:53 (permalink)

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    Status: online Interesting how Dr Trout post a pic of deer at a salt block in June and the same old folks have a "field day" critizing.. but here's a post from last year with MANY pictures up and into SEPTEMBER only a few week before the start of archery and there's salt blocks, salt rocks, apples, cocaine, etc, etc..



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    Perhaps it's because you make posts such as the ones below in your discussion with Dardys. Just because you replace corn with salt doesn't change the fact that you bait them in during the summer and shoot them within a very short distance of your various types of bait.


    Doc Quote: OH NO ??? you ADMITTED you just sit near a food plot, planted with food for deer year round......

    Toot that horn there buddy...

    at least my bait is long gone before I go looking for a deer in the area.. not waiting for one to show up at a food plot ....

    I can only image that if I sat near someone's food plot I would not have to do alot of scouting or spend alot of time in the woods either....



    Doc Quote: I sit about 400-500 yards away from my back yard where I feed deer from the day after Xmas until April... all summer they are on their own for food sources.. so it's not even the 30 days before the season... it's more like 5 months ...


    Perhaps you should be more careful when throwing stones.



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    RE: Early buck pics 2011/06/15 17:53:54 (permalink)
    So it's OK to bait deer with in a safety zone say 50 yards from an occupied building during archery ? Then if a hunter is outside the safety zone, say 60 yards(archery) it's OK for them to kill a deer on it's way to your bait site where salt residue remains? So tell me what is the "set" distance a hunter must be from a bait site that residue or bait still remains Dr Trout ? This "dummy" would like to know.
    post edited by Outdoor Adventures - 2011/06/15 17:55:49
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    RE: Early buck pics 2011/06/15 17:58:35 (permalink)

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    salt block is within a hundred yards of my home -- it's a safety zone dummies -- no need to post anything --


    You really stepped in it this time!! The fact that your salt block is within a safety zone doesn't mean a thing because a hunter can be prosecuted for hunting on a tail leading to a baited area. And, if you start feeding the day after Christmas ,you are feeding during the ML and late archery season which is also illegal. Does RSB know where you live?
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    RE: Early buck pics 2011/06/15 18:37:35 (permalink)
    This is unreal.  The guy posts a trail camera pic from early June and is attacked for using bait/mineral or hunting over it.  There have been tons of the same type pics posted here and everywhere. 
     
    Using bait/mineral is perfectly legal all year long.  It is up to those that placed it to know the game laws and abide by them come hunting season.  I trust that they do.  If not, then they have no excuses.  If a hunter is hutning close by it is the decretion of the investigating officer to decide whether the hunter knew of the bait/mineral or took advanatge of its placement.
     
    No laws or ethics issue here.  Just a Pa. sportsmen that wanted to share some of his trail camera pics and is subjected to this.
     
    BTW, before folks start with you are just defending one of your PGC supporting buddies, have you been following the Sunday hunting debates.

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    RE: Early buck pics 2011/06/15 18:39:55 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: deerfly

     And, if you start feeding the day after Christmas ,you are feeding during the ML and late archery season which is also illegal.

     
    Wrong.  You can feed/bait/mineral all year long.  Of course you can't hunt over it or take advantage of game movement to it. 

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    RE: Early buck pics 2011/06/15 19:03:27 (permalink)
    Wrong again!! DT says he hunts within 400-500 yds of where the food and minerals are placed. While walking to his stand he is a lot closer than 400-500 yds from the area where he had the salt blocks. Therefore he is hunting in an area that is illegally baited and is in violation of the law.
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    RE: Early buck pics 2011/06/15 19:10:38 (permalink)
        Hunted an Oak ridge for a long time and took nice Deer there regularly. Always had to get in  pre season ( few days) and see which trees they preferred to feed under most  and then set up my climber nearby.
    Not much different, is it?
       Now I do prefer to still hunt -even with the bow- but unless your a trail sitter we are all looking for the food source that attracts them the most.
       Yes- yes I understand the difference but in all practical reality its not much different-specially when the human stuff is removed before the season. Makes no diff wether there is salt residue or still the smell of old mouldy corn they are on their regular routine for a while, food or not.
      Heck, watch those Hero Deer  Texas hunts on TV with corn all over the road way through the brush- or those huge Canada bucks on the snow -all that nice alfalfa hay didnt grow out on top of that snow in the deep woods.
      Just about perspective.
    post edited by retired guy - 2011/06/15 19:18:34
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    RE: Early buck pics 2011/06/15 19:40:58 (permalink)
    This discussion is not about "perspective', it is about the law and the PA law states that all residual minerals in the soil have to be removed prior to hunting season. What DT is doing may be ethical, but it is not legal unless he and no other hunters hunt within an undefined distance from the minerals or food he places to attract deer.
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    RE: Early buck pics 2011/06/15 19:44:56 (permalink)
    This exactly what I stated:
     
    "Wrong.  You can feed/bait/mineral all year long.  Of course you can't hunt over it or take advantage of game movement to it. "
     
    There is nothing that is incorrect about it, deerfly, despite your wish to spin every blasted comment that is made around here.

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    RE: Early buck pics 2011/06/15 19:47:46 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: deerfly

    What DT is doing may be ethical, but it is not legal unless he and no other hunters hunt within an undefined distance from the minerals or food he places to attract deer.

     
    Internet cop at its best or maybe just jumping at any chance to attack folks with whom you disagree.  As I said before, one of the few places where this crap is rampant. 

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    RE: Early buck pics 2011/06/15 20:15:23 (permalink)
    Perhaps if Doc wouldn't go after so many of us or tell so many different stories he wouldn't have his counterdictory statements questioned. All I want to know is did he move his house or his hemlock grove?

    Doc Quote: I moved here in 1987 and I have harvested a total of 28 deer here in Polk or Spring Creek Townships..
    18 of my them in "the hemlock grove" a couple hundred yards behind the house and BEEN HOME by noon...
    thus the 11:00 o"clock stuff...

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    RE: Early buck pics 2011/06/15 20:31:37 (permalink)
    Deer-
       I do not -will not and have never hunted over bait. It is legal in some areas of CT and I do not hunt on those areas- Fair chase is just that and to me it is what makes hunting a worthwhile experience.
        My point about Perspective is that while I firmly believe in the above things I understand that many do not and that in many areas they are in fact fulfilling all legal requirements when they DO hunt over bait.
       As much as I like to hunt over dogs including a variety of hounds I would NEVER do so for Deer - just not my cupa tea- some do so and have done so for generations in the South.
    My point was that there are many ways things are done- and I realize mine is not for all. When I drag in a Deer it was him ( or her) and me period- no outside man made fluences. Welll perhaps a grunt call here and there.
      BTW- how many here who blast baiting participate in Drives- another hot topic I'll bet. In some places thats illegal too.
         I dont mean this to be contrary or argumentative in any way- just pointing out there are different strokes for different folks. And whats illegal here may be legal just over a bit.
      This is not to be taken as a way of saying laws are made to be broken -it is NOT- it is saying that doing the same thing in different places requires doing it in many different ways leading to many different interpretations of what may be right or wrong.  Personally- go to the place that fits your style, thats why I hunt where I do.
    post edited by retired guy - 2011/06/15 20:57:12
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    RE: Early buck pics 2011/06/15 21:08:29 (permalink)
    Now ya got me replying to myself---
        Maybe a story will make it clearer- Muzzel loader season in Ct a long long time ago ---deep on a hardwood ridge with houses a few hundred yards off on one side and my cousins farm down hill on the other. Poking quietly  along the top looking down into the farm side and out pops a real nice 8 pt.-just off the top and goes down into the Farm side a few hops and I dropped him on the hop dead in his tracks.
       Saw him lying there after the smoke cleared giving a last kick- Great buck, nice shot, long but downhill drag- good hunt.
       Now this guy has a inquiring mind so before approaching the 8 I went and looked at where he had come from- ended up ruining my whole Muzzel season not to mention making a great memory just a mud hole.
        Turns out somebody from way over at those houses had cleared out his whole darn garden after the frosts and had walked  it all on the farm woods by the top of the ridge. He had been determined cause it was a long way to those houses.  Everything -corn stalks, tomato plants etc etc. Now if that wasnt taking a buck over bait nothing was. Still mad too and that was 30 years ago.
      Bait is bait no matter what state and its illegal where I go too.
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    RE: Early buck pics 2011/06/15 21:12:06 (permalink)
    Internet cop at its best or maybe just jumping at any chance to attack folks with whom you disagree.  As I said before, one of the few places where this crap is rampant. 


    Please note that i did not raise the issue regarding DT hunting over minerals or bait. I simply responded to his claim that the guys that challenged him were dummies because the minerals were within a safety zone and DT was flat out wrong. And, BTW I didn't attack Dt, I just informed him that what he was doing was in direct violation of the PGC regs. Ignorance of the law is no excuse and I didn't want DT to be prosecuted for something he thought was legal.

    However , if RSB wants to condone what DT is doing I will be happy to admit I was wrong!!
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    RE: Early buck pics 2011/06/15 21:22:16 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: deerfly

    I didn't want DT to be prosecuted for something he thought was legal.



    Yea, the sincerity in your previous post is overwhelming.

    Deerfly posted: "You really stepped in it this time!! The fact that your salt block is within a safety zone doesn't mean a thing because a hunter can be prosecuted for hunting on a tail leading to a baited area. And, if you start feeding the day after Christmas ,you are feeding during the ML and late archery season which is also illegal."

    You got a unique way of trying to help someone out.

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