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2011/04/25 16:28:17 (permalink)

North Park Lake

Anyone hear any news about possible stockings? Species, dates, etc.?

It's supposedly going to be completed on time, but haven't heard anything about stocking.

Thanks.
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    bubblegumworm
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    RE: North Park Lake 2011/04/25 16:50:56 (permalink)
    It may be a little while as the lake's ecosystem developes again. Probably fall at the earliest.
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    RE: North Park Lake 2011/04/26 10:38:21 (permalink)
    they likely wont stock any fish until the fall. but people have already put fish in from other local lakes and im sure that will happen all summer
    post edited by northparklake2 - 2011/04/26 10:41:43
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    RE: North Park Lake 2011/04/26 10:43:01 (permalink)
    i also heard yesterday that they finally started to remove sediment from the back lagoon where the boat launch is
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    RE: North Park Lake 2011/04/26 13:01:20 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: northparklake2

    i also heard yesterday that they finally started to remove sediment from the back lagoon where the boat launch is

    I saw that too.
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    RE: North Park Lake 2011/04/26 15:37:27 (permalink)
    I saw an article yesterday and now I'm having problems finding it. It showed the structure that they built in the bottom of the lake. It looked like they were made of some kind of pvc pipe.
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    RE: North Park Lake 2011/04/26 15:46:20 (permalink)
    all the structure in place is either rough cut lumber or stone or a combo of the two
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    RE: North Park Lake 2011/04/26 18:10:10 (permalink)
    As of yesterday, they have not started on the back lagoon yet.  I drove past it yesterday around 5 or so. 

    I want to see them open it up to electric motors.  It's big enough and now deep enough to not have a problem.  I never understood why it was manual power only. 

    What all would you guys like to see stocked?  I wouldn't mind trout, bass, crappie, bluegill, catfish, walleye and tiger muskies.

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    RE: North Park Lake 2011/04/27 08:36:29 (permalink)
    Smallmouth Bass and Perch
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    RE: North Park Lake 2011/04/27 10:18:02 (permalink)
    I'd be nice if they'd work on making it a muskie hotspot. They could stock muskie, bass, channel cats, and sunfish.
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    RE: North Park Lake 2011/04/27 15:30:08 (permalink)
    I just hope they actually dredge the back lagoon
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    RE: North Park Lake 2011/04/27 16:08:34 (permalink)
    drove by today and they were working on the lagoon.

    your "game fish" is my bait.....got flathead!!
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    RE: North Park Lake 2011/04/28 13:04:17 (permalink)
    Catfish, Bass, and Tigers would be great.
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    RE: North Park Lake 2011/05/01 18:33:09 (permalink)
    i have driven through here several times in the last week....It is nowhere near ready to be stocked, or boated on.

    They havent even started to let it re fill yet.

    The habitat structure they put in should make for nice fishing over the years
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    RE: North Park Lake 2011/05/01 19:11:40 (permalink)
    once they do restock i wonder what kind of regulations/creel limits the fish and boat comm will impose on north park lake. it's gonna take a couple years to get a decent fish population established, it would be kinda stupid to just let people start keeping fish before the lake is fully populated.
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    RE: North Park Lake 2011/05/02 15:35:25 (permalink)
    Rumor I hear is that Allegheny County workers are the one's digging in the lagoon/ boat launch area. Definately less equipment on that part. The county employees would be paid anyway so I guess it is good the county is doing a portion of the 1.3 million add on themselves but I wouldn't expect to see any work past 4:30 PM or on the weekends. Seems the other contractors are done though.
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    RE: North Park Lake 2011/05/02 22:37:55 (permalink)
    no way this will be done on time, imo

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    RE: North Park Lake 2011/05/06 11:26:44 (permalink)
    I think my rumor was wrong about the county doing the work themselves because none of the trucks have the parks logo. They sure are moving dirt though. Probably the only way the lake won't be open on time is if we suddenly stop getting rain!
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    RE: North Park Lake 2011/05/06 13:05:28 (permalink)
    the lake was suppose to be done and filled with water by may 1st. then they said mid may and now i am hoping by memorial day that the lake is full
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    RE: North Park Lake 2011/05/06 16:36:56 (permalink)
    The only thing we will get out of the lake being filled now is the boating.  They won't start stocking it until the fall at the earliest.

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    RE: North Park Lake 2011/05/09 08:12:04 (permalink)
    article in sundays Post....said forage fish were stocked last week and the PAFB doesn't recommend fishing until Jan. 2012. the next paragraph stated that they will stock the lake in Feb. 2012................I was confused unless I'm unaware of some fishing cult that targets forage fish?
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    RE: North Park Lake 2011/05/09 16:39:29 (permalink)
    I thought Memorial day was the target. I'm probably wrong.
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    RE: North Park Lake 2011/05/09 16:46:11 (permalink)

    North Park Lake slowly returns to life

    Sunday, May 08, 2011
    By John Hayes, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

    Two years, $21 million and nearly 300,000 cubic yards of sediment have passed since Allegheny County and the Army Corps of Engineers, with some financial help from the state, began restoring North Park Lake. With a few exceptions, primarily located in and around the Irwin Run tributary, the project is in its final stage and the lake is slowly refilling.

    Don't rig up the fishing tackle -- the lake remains a slowly rising vat of milk chocolate-colored sediment, reaching depths of 6-8 feet at the dam and backing up as far as the boat launch. The Pennsylvania Fish and Boat Commission recommends that public fishing resume Jan. 1, 2012. The first stockings of non-game fish occurred a couple of weeks ago, and the agency plans to restock warm-water game species for permanent residency beginning in February 2012. Limited seasonal stockings of trout would follow.

    The Army Corps has completed the project's primary goal, removal of 76 years of sediment that had shaved 10 feet from the lake's maximum depth and turned 15 acres of open water into gooey, weed-choked swamp. Allegheny County has finished some tributary and landside improvements including anti-siltation measures on Pine Creek and North Branch Pine Creek. Further improvements are pending on Irwin Run, near or above the boat launch area.

    In addition to the uncovering of the original stumps left in the lake bed when it was created, Fish and Boat crews have built dozens of fish habitats specific to the spawning and cover needs of baitfish and game fish of various sizes. PFBC biologist Rick Lorson suggested that savvy anglers might take note of their placement before they're covered with water.

    "Or mark their locations on your GPS units," he said. "Those structures, regardless of what type they are, mimic the preferred habitat of the fish species they were placed there for."

    Plant life, it's believed, will most likely repopulate itself in proportions reflecting the increased acreage of deeper open water. When stocking of game fish resumes, PFBC intends to plant fingerling and young adult populations of largemouth bass, bluegills, channel catfish and white crappies. North Park Lake is a shallow, warm-water fishery with relatively low dissolved oxygen content, not ideal for cold-water trout. Limited seasonal trout stockings will precede each opening day.

    The return of North Park Lake provides a rare opportunity for wildlife biologists to create a new waterway. As current murkiness settles, the water will take on the "new lake effect."

    "Prior to the draining, the [lake's] nutrients were bound to the sediment," said Lorson. "The 'new lake effect' occurs when the lake is refilled and the nutrients dissolve and disperse through the lake. Years 5 through 10 will be the best time for that lake in terms of reproduction and growth. Survival will be high."

    Below the dam, the sediment problem on Pine Creek continues. Despite some siltation barriers placed in the drained lake bed by the Army Corps, mud that washed into the creek covered miles of creek bed.

    "It buried the bug life," said Lorson. "Pine Creek was certainly impacted, and it will take several years of high water and storm flows to wash out that sediment."

    That didn't stop PFBC from stocking trout in the creek during the past two years, although none were planted in the stream section below the dam in 2010. Stocking there resumed this year.

    "Dry fly anglers are not going to have as much activity for a while," said Lorson. "They may want to work with something imitating a terrestrial. The fishing gets better farther down the creek."

    Tom Walsh, who leads the Pine Creek deflector-placement project for Penn's Woods West Trout Unlimited, said he fished the Delayed Harvest Artificial Lures Only section Thursday with little success.

    "The creek is pretty silted up. When you wade, you kick up a lot of mud," he said. "But the fish stocked there seemed to be holding up well. Those we caught fought well and seemed to be healthy."

    About 10 rock and log deflectors placed by the group, usually in slow shallow stretches, act to narrow the creek and hasten the current, sweeping out siltation, carving deeper channels and improving habitat. The project, which began before lake restoration impacted the creek, is expected to be a big help during Pine Creek's slow return to normal.

    The Dan Wagner Memorial Kid's Fishing Derby for children 2 to 12 will be held 7 a.m.-noon Saturday at North Park. Meet at the Rochester shelter located between the boathouse and tennis courts. Prizes and a picnic lunch at noon. 724-544-7284.



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    RE: North Park Lake 2011/06/02 16:42:18 (permalink)
    Looks like all the dirt has been out since the end of last week but more work is going on at the lagoon. I concede, they have gone over their deadline. I think fish will still be stocked on the same hypothetical schedule next year whether they planned on winter trout or opening day trout
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    RE: North Park Lake 2011/06/02 22:56:14 (permalink)
    Viper's always good for digging up the Dirt...no pun intended.
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    RE: North Park Lake 2011/06/06 15:55:59 (permalink)








    Safety Issues Prompt
    Complete Drawdown of Glade Run Lake
     
    Harrisburg, PA – The Pennsylvania Fish and Boat Commission (PFBC) is alerting anglers, boaters and the general public that it will completely draw down Butler County’s Glade Run Lake amid new concerns that a partial drawdown will create safety issues for anglers and may lead to a high rate of mortality among remaining fish.
     
    “After examining the overall depth of the lake, we decided a partial drawdown would create too small of a fishing area and would require anglers to walk through a significant amount of muddy and unstable land just to reach fishable waters,” said Leroy Young, director of the PFBC Bureau of Fisheries. “Also, it’s likely that the combination of shallow water and high summer temperatures would lead to high mortality among the remaining fish.”
     PFBC biologists started a partial salvage late last week by electrofishing and moving fish to North Park Lake in Allegheny County and Lake Arthur in Butler County. A second salvage will be conducted within the next several weeks as the lake continues to be lowered. The lake is currently open to anglers, but they should use extra caution when fishing from the shore. Boaters are advised to use other facilities since the lower water level will make it difficult to safely launch a boat. The PFBC started lowering the water level on May 24 in order to alleviate pressure on the lake’s dam. A routine inspection in mid-May discovered that seepage underneath the dam had caused erosion beneath the ground surface, prompting the decision to draw down the lake due to safety concerns.  The 52-acre lake was built in 1955 and is managed by the PFBC on behalf of the Commonwealth. In 2002, the Department of Environmental Protection (DEP) declared the lake’s dam unsafe and placed it on its list of “high-hazard” dams. The PFBC estimates that it will cost $4 million to reconstruct the dam’s concrete spillway and reinforce the embankment, but the project is currently unfunded.   The PFBC manages 16 high-hazard dams on behalf of the Commonwealth, but it does not have the funds to repair all of them. More information about high-hazard dams and the funding needed to rebuild them is available on the PFBC website at:

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    RE: North Park Lake 2011/06/06 16:16:40 (permalink)
    It's too bad the PFBC doesn't have 1000's of gas wells drilled in the PFBC lakes like the PGC does with game lands. There would be no shortage of money then to repair our dams.
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    RE: North Park Lake 2011/06/07 10:45:20 (permalink)
    This springs weather probably didn't help Glad Run's dam much, either. Guess it is good for North Park though. They are getting an injection of larger fish sooner than expected.
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    RE: North Park Lake 2011/06/12 19:57:05 (permalink)
    i played a baseball game @ pie traynor field today and took a gander at the lake. there was kayaks on the "lake." Its not super deep though, as some of the fish structures were only partially submerged.
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