Identifying Gar

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2011/03/27 19:30:40 (permalink)

Identifying Gar

I'm having some trouble identifying which kind of gar we have in presque isle bay. I used to believe they were spotted gar, now I'm questioning it... are they longnose or spotted? Endangered or no? I'm looking for a "for sure" answer.

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    heyiknowyou
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    RE: Identifying Gar 2011/03/27 19:48:01 (permalink)
    #1 rule in Erie: they're only snagged/undersized/endangered if you get caught dude

    but seriously... i think the lake is home to both

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    RE: Identifying Gar 2011/03/27 19:51:06 (permalink)

    Slick - can't help you much on this but you've got the stuff to bring 'em in....

    http://forums.fishusa.com/New_Product/m_385975/tm.htm

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    RE: Identifying Gar 2011/03/27 19:51:46 (permalink)
    Think the taxidermist will rat me out?

    I don't always snag fish, but when I do...
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    RE: Identifying Gar 2011/03/27 19:54:57 (permalink)
    It appears to me spotted are "spotted" heavily over the whole fish and head. Longnose seem to have spots on the tail and fins.

    I don't always snag fish, but when I do...
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    RE: Identifying Gar 2011/03/27 20:06:49 (permalink)
    This is off the PA fish Commission website click on number 7
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    http://fishandboat.com/pafish/fishhtms/chapindx.htm

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    RE: Identifying Gar 2011/03/27 20:12:53 (permalink)
    Thanks I've looked at that...and thats what has me wondering.

    I just read bowfins are protected too?....crap!

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    RE: Identifying Gar 2011/03/27 21:48:29 (permalink)
    Slick,

    I have seen multiple gar together on a local river, was there when one was caught and had a 3' monster on for a little while. The longnose gar that I saw caught and the majority of gar that I have seen have been very silvery with very little or no spots on the main body.

    I am looking for the picture I have of the longnose. If I can find it I will post it.

    Once or twice I saw multiple gar together and one of them was MUCH different than the rest. it had spots all over it and the others were very silver. I think the differences should be pretty obvious if you see them together.

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    RE: Identifying Gar 2011/03/28 01:55:38 (permalink)
    The spotted one was the pimp!

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    RE: Identifying Gar 2011/03/28 08:08:55 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Mr.Slickfish

    I just read bowfins are protected too?....crap!



    Yeah, but its easy to tell them by the way they curl when you drop them on the ground.
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    RE: Identifying Gar 2011/03/28 09:15:08 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Mr.Slickfish

    Think the taxidermist will rat me out?


    At $10 + per inch, they should keep their mouth shut...

    Seriously though, most of the gar that I've seen have been in a pic with you...
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    RE: Identifying Gar 2011/03/28 09:31:21 (permalink)
    Saw what I will call a pod of Gar on Conneaut Lake while Bass fishing.
    Must have been 25-30 of them in a big ball along the bank.
    Hooked into about a 3 footer and never got it in the boat, the thing went ballistic at the boat.
    Not sure I wanted that crazed beast in the boat anyway...

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    RE: Identifying Gar 2011/03/28 11:41:53 (permalink)
    Bings...they truly are a "ballistic" fish.

    So ya know...they are one of the few fish that actually will try and bite you....and they tend to slash that open beak around. Once you handle one of those things with a wide open slashing beak....you'll have a new respect for them.

    I don't always snag fish, but when I do...
    I choose Little Cleos

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    RE: Identifying Gar 2011/03/28 14:34:32 (permalink)
    I talked to the presque isle park "environmentalist". He says we have both. Spotted gar primarily stay in the laggoons, and longnose in the bay. When asked how you could "definitely" tell them apart...the response was the longnose were a little more "golden". Duud tried to be helpful but I'm still unclear.

    Maybe I'll take a few to the park office and see if they can help

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    RE: Identifying Gar 2011/03/28 15:31:07 (permalink)
    This doesn't answer your question, but impressive nonetheless:

    http://www.garfishingguide.com/NewPhotos.html




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    RE: Identifying Gar 2011/03/28 19:24:37 (permalink)
    killer link Rhnstn

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    RE: Identifying Gar 2011/03/29 06:58:15 (permalink)
    Slick, I've seen you catch both, IN THE SAME DAY!
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    RE: Identifying Gar 2011/03/29 11:20:02 (permalink)
    Pics or it didn't happen... :)

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    RE: Identifying Gar 2011/03/30 20:38:33 (permalink)
    Slick, I think they are on to us. We have to come up with better, more believable fishing stories. We should do one on some carp. Probably could get away with callin it a 50 pounder...........
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    RE: Identifying Gar 2011/03/30 23:29:22 (permalink)
    Duuds r gonna b sic when I post a 5ft gar with a shrek arse fly in it......


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    RE: Identifying Gar 2011/03/30 23:31:14 (permalink)
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    I don't always snag fish, but when I do...
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    RE: Identifying Gar 2011/03/30 23:51:23 (permalink)

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    I'm looking to purchase a new yellow rope....any suggestions?



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