Deerfly,
Just so we all get a better idea of what you personally are dealing with, what unit do you hunt and if you don't mind, what county of that unit and what general are of that county?
 
Congrats to the young hunter.  Any pics to share?

ORIGINAL: deerfly

We hunt Northampton Co. in 5 c just north of the Bucks Co. line in the eastern part of the unit. The valley is prime farm land with wooded ridges and it is some of the best deer habitat and cover in the state.

how do you know bucks didnt slip by you at 20 yards.....

double yes

I didn't make any comment about the ground you hunt or what you see. It was you that questioned what I was experiencing in 5C and now you admit you had no basis for challenging my observations.

1 yes/no
2 yes

ORIGINAL: deerfly

how do you know bucks didnt slip by you at 20 yards.....

That is where you questioned my observations about the lack of buck in 5C

HA! that was a sarcastic jab back at ya from when you questioned me

nahh you missed the point of my post. You originally said a walk in the woods would be worthless with me, since I dont accept facts or something like that about the B/D ratio. 5C was never mentioned till today...but kept thinking that duude

By the way, are you still hunting birds? The mutts each won their division at the PA State Open Pheasant Hunting Championship. there is no living with them.

It's been a long time.
Congrats!

Ironhed

ORIGINAL: deerfly

ORIGINAL: BIGHEAD

Ken just spit coffee over my screen thanks LOL Deerfly From the looks of MOST of your post Do TELL just how are you able to HUNT?????? You are on here in most of the best times to out in the woods hunting. And maybe seeing some deer. But of coarse there are no deer to found so why go!!! Or do you post from the woods with a laptop or your cell phone to kill time when your not seeing deer? It looks like you have a couple options,1 get your self into the PGC/WCO and make some changes,2 Move to another state of your choice or find your self better hunting grounds. Crying on a internet forum is NOT going to change ANYTHING. Dave

It is a common ploy on the MBs to attack someone's character and hunting ability when they can't refute with facts their adversaries position. I have been hunting deer for 55 years and I am not competing with anyone for the largest buck killed, the most number of deer killed, or the great white hunter of the MBs award. I hunt because I enjoy trying to outsmart one of the most elusive game animals we have for the benefit of the other members of our group. I have hunted six days this rifle season and haven't carried a gun since the firsts Tuesday. This season I have seen a grand total of 3 deer and I wouldn't have had an ethical shot at any of them.

But, today what would have been a rather dismal season turned out to be a success on the last drive of the day. Since the first Friday we have been trying to harvest a doe that was crippled by another hunter. Today, after walking for about five miles in some of the best habitat in the state and only seeing one doe I was more than just a bit discouraged. But my sister convinced me to make one more drive to attempt to push a deer to my 13 year old niece. Despite all odds we managed to push the crippled doe to my niece and she make a good one shot kill on her first deer. That changed a very disappointing season into one we will all remember until we are no longer capable of remembering.

 
It's not an attack on character or hunting ability.  It's you that complain about pa deer hunting but are spending more than the majority of the season on a pc.   Little difference than the road hunter, or same stump sitter that complains about no deer.  You won't catch me telling you it's raining if I can't see outside.

You talk about viewing a topic objectively and then make a highly biased and uninformed comment like this. You have no idea how much time I spent hunting or what I was doing when I wasn't hunting or on the computer. It only takes a few minutes to read and respond to your cheap shots and since I live where I hunt ,it would only take a few minutes away from my hunting time.

It's not an attack on character or hunting ability.  It's you that complain about pa deer hunting but are spending more than the majority of the season on a pc.   Little difference than the road hunter, or same stump sitter that complains about no deer.  You won't catch me telling you it's raining if I can't see outside.

For you information I am not a stump sitter or road hunter. Since the first Tues. I have been making one man drives trying to push deer to my niece,wife and other relatives. In six days of hunting and walking I saw a grand total of 3 deer and wouldn't have had a shot at any of them. Therefore, instead of wasting my time walking when no one was on stand , I did something that was more productive and more enjoyable, I cut firewood. I was still out enjoying the woods and I was working in an area that once had two majoring crossings,but I didn't see a deer or a hunter.

FYI, none is totally objective when discussing DM issues. We all have our personal preferences and opinions and no one presents both sides of every issue. But, s-10 ,Wayne and I provide the data to support our position, while you only provide your opinion supported by cheap shots and insults,while making accusations you can't support.

ORIGINAL: Ironhed

By the way, are you still hunting birds? The mutts each won their division at the PA State Open Pheasant Hunting Championship. there is no living with them.

It's been a long time.
Congrats!

Ironhed

 
Now that all of this deer nonsense is out of the way, I can get back at it with the pointers.  (Someone tried to talk me into getting the flintlock out of mothballs, but I am getting far too old for those frustrations.)

Now that all of this deer nonsense is out of the way, I can get back at it with the pointers. (Someone tried to talk me into getting the flintlock out of mothballs, but I am getting far too old for those frustrations.)

My buddy that I used to do the majority of my bird hunting with passed away 2 years ago,  this past October. 
Things just haven't been the same since.
I love flint season.  I have one tag remaining and I can't wait!

Ironhed

Likewise.. a prime example of you twisting my words. Perhaps you should read what I wrote. I did not say you specifically. I said yinz. You lumped yourself with two others saying yinz provide facts so I lumped you as well.

Yes, it was wayne. Question away.

4D, which is where I hunt public land is comparable in size to 5C. Let's compare last year's harvest.

WMU 4D: 5,000 (6,600) antlered, 7,200 (9,300) antlerless;

WMU 5C: 7,600 (8,700) antlered, 23,200 (20,200) antlerless;


WOW.