Something tells me that this isn't your first rodeo cowboy ! Once a BB killer always a BB killer.

ORIGINAL: DarDys

ORIGINAL: SilverKype

People are gonna shoot button bucks.  They don't care if it's a button buck.  They want to walk into the woods and shoot a deer and go home.   I have no issue with that. 

However, when someone yaps about not seeing bucks, or enough, and shoots a button buck, then I like to ask questions. 

The big deal I had with the BB was the policy of the farmer, even though he wants the deer dead, is it is an "earn a buck" deal by killing a doe first.  That rule ended up being violated when the BB was unintentionally shot.  Had I been able to tell that it was a BB, like some of the deer gods on this thread claim they can -- all the time, every time, and under all circumstances -- I would have instructed her to shoot one of the yearling does.

By the way, the farmer told me that he has not seen an antlered deer since September.

"Something tells me that this isn't your first rodeo cowboy ! Once a BB killer always a BB killer."
 
Actually, your right, I did one other time kill a BB.  It had its rear leg snapped at the knee from a car accident and I took care of the issue.
 
Again, and this doesn't seem to be able to penetrate the granite between your ears -- BB's are legal.  It is a personal thing whether you shoot one or not.  I try not to and have been fairly successful at it, but in no way, shape, or form begrudge those that exercise their legal opportunity to do so.
 
People hunt for different reasons.  Some hunt for the outdoor experience (vouyers).  Some hunt for meat (killers).  Some hunt for trophies (little weenie syndrom).  Some hunt for sport (missed their calling as gladiators).
 
The whole point of my comments were, here was an expereinced hunter (probably more so than you), with good equipment, in an unhurried situation, that under a certain circumstance, could not tell the difference between a large, farm fed BB and a normal sized 1.5 Doe (both of which were legal) under ideal conditions so that it would be a stretch for the "three-days-in-the-woods-per-year" hunters to positively identify all BB's under typically non-laboratory type conditons as some of the internet deer goods like yourself proclaim.
 
Now go figure out if you are a peeper, need a trophy to make you feel whole, or missed your day in the arena.  Or perhaps you have fallen into the dumpster and can't get out.

ORIGINAL: DarDys

ORIGINAL: SilverKype

People are gonna shoot button bucks.  They don't care if it's a button buck.  They want to walk into the woods and shoot a deer and go home.   I have no issue with that. 

However, when someone yaps about not seeing bucks, or enough, and shoots a button buck, then I like to ask questions. 

The big deal I had with the BB was the policy of the farmer, even though he wants the deer dead, is it is an "earn a buck" deal by killing a doe first.  That rule ended up being violated when the BB was unintentionally shot.  Had I been able to tell that it was a BB, like some of the deer gods on this thread claim they can -- all the time, every time, and under all circumstances -- I would have instructed her to shoot one of the yearling does.

By the way, the farmer told me that he has not seen an antlered deer since September.

If the farmer really wanted the deer dead he'd enroll in dmap or red tag. I know he has issues with the governing body but he doesn't expect you to shoot them all, does he ?

I'm with DarDays on this one.

For every BB you shoot you lose a potential buck for the next season.
Remember, an adult doe averages twins each year of which one is a male.
For every adult doe you shoot you lose a potential buck and breeding doe for the next season in addition to the adult breeding doe you shot.
Which is more costly to the long term buck population?
Alt was no fool in telling us to shoot the adult doe even though QDMA suggests shooting the fawns in Northern states.

The fact that we may disagree vehemently does not prevent us from enjoying the hunt. After walking for about 5 miles in some of the best habitat in the state and only seeing one deer, my niece turned what would have been a dismal season to forget into a season to remember by harvesting her first deer ,a crippled doe on the last drive of the season. I doubt I cold have wiped the smile from her face with an oak 2X4.

Congrat to the girl and that was a very nice thing you guys did for her. Thats what it all about!!GREAT Job. Dave