A Visual for using the Water Flow Gauge

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2010/09/29 14:19:24 (permalink)

A Visual for using the Water Flow Gauge

THESE PICTURES ARE FROM LAST YEAR, 2010
This is not happening right now.

So what do all of the numbers mean?

This is September 3rd 2010

Gauge Height:3.28

Cubic Feet per second:5.8

Turbidity: .1




And this is September 29 2010  at 1:15PM

The gauge height was: 4.30 feet

The Cubic Feet per Second: 154

Water Turbidity: 27

This is what that looks like:

At the Stop Sign Hole












At the Water Gauge.



At Manchester Hole

post edited by cbeagler - 2011/09/15 08:41:22
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    KJH807
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    RE: A Visual for using the Water Flow Gauge 2010/09/29 14:44:00 (permalink)
    WOW
    weds is the new saturday

    funny last weds i had 2 pinners low-hole the F--K out of me at 10am
    post edited by KJH807 - 2010/09/29 14:45:13



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    RE: A Visual for using the Water Flow Gauge 2010/09/29 14:45:21 (permalink)
    I've actually been meaning to ask that question. When people post looking for water conditions, etc, there's a common response to post a link to the USGS gauges. I've always wondered, "Well, how does that translate?" Is there a good place to find information on how to make that data relevant to fishing conditions?

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    RE: A Visual for using the Water Flow Gauge 2010/09/29 14:45:46 (permalink)
    should have been there at 4:30 yesterday... looked completely different

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    RE: A Visual for using the Water Flow Gauge 2010/09/29 15:00:12 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: KJH807

    WOW
    weds is the new saturday


    +1 I was thinking that as I was looking at the pictures. I can only imagaine what it is going to look like in a couple weeks.
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    RE: A Visual for using the Water Flow Gauge 2010/09/29 15:16:07 (permalink)
    Not bad for unemployment being at 10%

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    RE: A Visual for using the Water Flow Gauge 2010/09/29 15:28:22 (permalink)
    It will be elbow to elbow to elbow to a#$hole and so on. Depends some days I am the elbow and some days the other! Seems everytime I am there I wonder does anyone work?
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    RE: A Visual for using the Water Flow Gauge 2010/09/29 15:45:16 (permalink)
    It means putting the time in to KNOW exactly what Cubic Feet per Second - CFU is optimal fishing time for YOU. Theres NO magic # that the steelhead just automatically turn on....everyone has there own preference just like anything else....fly fishing, pinning, spinning, live bait, artificial yadda yadda yadda. I have found my optimal CFU through trial and error over the years.....Do I know exactly what that guage means, does, or its purpose?....NOPE, but all I know is that it has been MY guage to know exactly when its time to head MUP!! It used to be a dam useful tool whenever I knew I could go mup in the middle of the week and know there would hardly be anyone around. However, like KJH illuded to, the mid weeks are now just like weekends...I remember a few weekends last year when there were actually less people than weekdays! Go figure. Now that I have "somewhat" found my perfect CFU and perfect time....I WILL NOT advertise it here. Theres a new element to the game...dodging inclement conditions and now inclement crowds...the later being the toughest!

    Just another FINE example of "Instant Gratification"! That being said and to answer some Qs....NO theres NO correlation between the guages and the quality of fishing....do you know why??? Because the guages ARE NOT MEANT or HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH FISHING!!!!!
    post edited by ShutUpNFish - 2010/09/29 15:51:07
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    RE: A Visual for using the Water Flow Gauge 2010/09/29 15:49:32 (permalink)
    Not one person with a fish on....Hummmmmmm
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    RE: A Visual for using the Water Flow Gauge 2010/09/29 16:04:33 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: ShutUpNFish


    Just another FINE example of "Instant Gratification"! That being said and to answer some Qs....NO theres NO correlation between the guages and the quality of fishing....do you know why??? Because the guages ARE NOT MEANT or HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH FISHING!!!!!


    Not exactly sure what you mean by the instant gratification part. 

    Agreed, I have caught fish in much higher water and on much much lower water. But if the gauge is reading 7 feet and the CFS is 1700, you are probably not going to do very well at all.

    Anyway, just wanted give folks an idea what they would be seeing at these numbers. And the numbers of folks they would be seeing.  And yes, in the picture at the gauge hole, that is an Amish man with a pinner rod on the bridge.
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    RE: A Visual for using the Water Flow Gauge 2010/09/29 16:12:43 (permalink)
    It means, quite frankly, that people WANT to know what number CFU is the perfect number to go fishng and their success rate be at it's best. NOT saying the you, in particular, was seeking that number. I know my number or place where that line needs to be, but often times have been disappointed because many have it figured out....LOL Just being frank and my name is Paul.

    I know I know Pinners are Diks already!
    post edited by ShutUpNFish - 2010/09/29 16:14:07
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    RE: A Visual for using the Water Flow Gauge 2010/09/29 16:15:46 (permalink)
    What is a CFU?
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    RE: A Visual for using the Water Flow Gauge 2010/09/29 16:19:53 (permalink)


    their core values are based off ending spooning for information, instantly gratifying yourself on fisherie, and finding a cure for burning spots



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    RE: A Visual for using the Water Flow Gauge 2010/09/29 16:22:44 (permalink)

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    their core values are based off ending spooning for information, instantly gratifying yourself on fisherie, and finding a cure for burning spots

    I've actually seen guys wearing that patch on Walnut/Elk before.....Just sayin'!
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    RE: A Visual for using the Water Flow Gauge 2010/09/29 16:32:57 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: ShutUpNFish

    It means, quite frankly, that people WANT to know what number CFU is the perfect number to go fishng and their success rate be at it's best. NOT saying the you, in particular, was seeking that number. I know my number or place where that line needs to be, but often times have been disappointed because many have it figured out....LOL Just being frank and my name is Paul.




    It's all good.

    Having grown up on the creek, I just look at it now and say, yep, nope, or go someplace else. I only started looking at CFS when I started fishing the Salmon River. There it can be life or death depending what part of the river you fish.

    Craig
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    RE: A Visual for using the Water Flow Gauge 2010/09/29 16:38:58 (permalink)
    i prefer cold winter weekdays  :-)
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    RE: A Visual for using the Water Flow Gauge 2010/09/29 16:54:03 (permalink)
    It means, quite frankly, that people WANT to know what number CFU is the perfect number to go fishng and their success rate be at it's best. NOT saying the you, in particular, was seeking that number.


    Yikes. I hope you didn't mean me, either! Perhaps I should have more properly phrased my question. I wasn't seeking info on CFS relative to prime fishing conditions; rather I was wondering what it meant in terms of stream conditions (wadability and such). In other words, if CFS is "X," how does it translate into ones ability to wade a particular body of water relative to its size? I ask partly because I have children and don't want to take them somewhere to fish if it's not feasible for them to get around.

    Knowledge for knowledge's sake. Not looking for a "magic" number or anything. When it's time to hit the tribs, I'll either be successful or I won't. Either way, at least I got out and enjoyed myself.



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    RE: A Visual for using the Water Flow Gauge 2010/09/29 17:06:53 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: mohawksyd

    I've actually been meaning to ask that question. When people post looking for water conditions, etc, there's a common response to post a link to the USGS gauges. I've always wondered, "Well, how does that translate?" Is there a good place to find information on how to make that data relevant to fishing conditions?



    Check out this link mohawksyd. I've found it to be generally accurate.

    http://forums.fishusa.com/Erie_stream_conditions_and_trip_info/m_242653/tm.htm
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    RE: A Visual for using the Water Flow Gauge 2010/09/29 17:11:48 (permalink)
    Grazie.

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    RE: A Visual for using the Water Flow Gauge 2010/09/29 19:52:59 (permalink)
    When the walnut gages are between 4-5 feet, ant the CFS is around 200 and dropping bet your bottom dollar those are "ideal conditions". Anything below 75 is low, and conditions are usually tougher. Hope this helps.
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    RE: A Visual for using the Water Flow Gauge 2010/09/29 19:57:20 (permalink)
    Those pictures are great!!!!!!!!!!!


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    RE: A Visual for using the Water Flow Gauge 2010/09/29 21:37:46 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: flychaser2

    Not one person with a fish on....Hummmmmmm


    TONS of fish hooked...Hummmmmmm
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    RE: A Visual for using the Water Flow Gauge 2010/10/02 15:24:12 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: flyfishermanPA


    ORIGINAL: flychaser2

    Not one person with a fish on....Hummmmmmm


    TONS of fish hooked...Hummmmmmm


    Why would I want to show THAT??
    post edited by cbeagler - 2010/10/25 09:42:29
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    RE: A Visual for using the Water Flow Gauge 2010/10/31 23:38:34 (permalink)
    ^
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    RE: A Visual for using the Water Flow Gauge 2010/11/01 14:36:51 (permalink)
    the gauges have nothing to do with fishing? can you catch fish when the walnut CFS is 450?
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    RE: A Visual for using the Water Flow Gauge 2010/11/01 17:00:13 (permalink)
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    the gauges have nothing to do with fishing? can you catch fish when the walnut CFS is 450?

    Id say the gauges have a lot to do with fishing. When its that high you might not want to fish it. And you can catch fish when its running at 450 , just find the slack water and eddys , Ive done it , BUT I would highly advise not trying.

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    RE: A Visual for using the Water Flow Gauge 2010/11/01 17:04:09 (permalink)
    sorry dude...I was being sarcastic...thinking 450 would be a blow out
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    RE: A Visual for using the Water Flow Gauge 2010/11/01 17:07:13 (permalink)
    I figured you were but like ive said , i have tried it. and will never try again. 

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    RE: A Visual for using the Water Flow Gauge 2010/11/01 19:55:33 (permalink)
    I've just always used the Brandy Run gauge to give me an idea for Elk. I dont fish the Nut except as a last resort, so I never paid attention to gauge at walnut until the Brandy Run site went off-line. One of these days, Im gonna try the east side streams.
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    RE: A Visual for using the Water Flow Gauge 2010/11/01 22:57:36 (permalink)
    Just stay on the west side where the fishing is much better, no room on the east side.
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