LUNDRUNNER ,THE TOTAL WAS $70.00

why not make it easier and come up with a hp/boat weight or boat length ratio?/ if speed is a problem we all know u can take an 18hp 4 strk tohatsu and put 9.9 stickers on it or the harder to find small 30hp 2 strk tohatsu's and put 9.9 stickers on them! the real issiue should be safety right??    so whats worse a tiny boat with the 30hp(9.9 decaled)or the 17-18ft deep V w/a 9.9??    either have a water speed limit or boat length/hp ratio set in place as obviously speed on the lake/safety seems to b their bottom line issues and im sure they know a bigger boat or pontoon just isn't safe on pymy when it gets too rough or too choppy being under powered!!!

Jason i'm sure the DCNR  will be checking some motors this  but  maybe not as intense as last year. Like i said before most the illegal motors were the tohatsu's    Dave

From what i just seen on merc site the 20 four stroke  looks a little bit smaller. But defiantly noticeable  www.mercurymarine.com/engines/outboards/fourstrokes/enginesetfour_specs.php?ID=69    take a look 




25 EFI FourStroke Specifications

HP @ Prop
25

kW @ Prop
18.6

Max RPM (WOT)
5000-6000

Cylinder/Configuration
3 (in-line)

Displacement (CID/cc)
32.1/526

Bore & Stroke (in)
2.40 x 2.36

Bore & Stroke (mm)
61 x 60

Cooling System
Water-cooled w/thermostat

Ignition System
CDI w/electric spark advance

Starting
Manual or Electric

Gear Ratio
1.92:1

Gear Shift
F-N-R

Steering
Tiller or remote

Alternator Amp
15

Alternator Watt
186

Trim System
Manual or power trim

Shallow Water Drive
Available

Exhaust System
Through prop

Lubrication System
Wet sump

Recommended Oil
Mercury 4-Stroke Outboard Oil

Oil Capacity
1.8 L / 2 Qt.

Fuel Induction System
2-valve single overhead cam

Remote Fuel Tank
Standard

Remote Fuel Tank (US Gal)
6.6

Remote Fuel Tank (L)
25

Shaft Length (inches)
15/20

Shaft Length (mm)
381/508

Dry Weight (lbs.)
157

Dry Weight (kg.)
71

Operator Warning System
Low oil pressure, overrev, overheat

Available Propellers
Consult current dealer propeller guide

CARB Star Rating
3

Warranty
3 years








20 FourStroke Specifications

HP @ Prop
20

kW @ Prop
14.9

Max RPM (WOT)
5400-6100

Cylinders
2 (in-line)

Displacement (CID/cc)
21.4/351

Bore & Stroke (in)
2.40 x 2.36

Bore & Stroke (mm)
61 x 60

Cooling System
Water-cooled w/thermostat

Ignition System
CDI w/ electric spark advance

Starting
Manual or electric

Gear Ratio
2.15:1

Gear Shift
F-N-R (Shift-in-Handle Tiller or Remote Control)

Steering
Tiller or remote

Alternator Amp
2 Volt / 11 Amp

Alternator Watt
139

Trim Positions
6

Shallow Water Drive
Standard

Exhaust System
Through prop

Lubrication System
Wet sump

Recommended Oil
Mercury 4-Stroke Outboard Oil

Oil Capacity
1.0 L / 1.1 Qt.

Fuel Induction System
2-valve single overhead cam

Remote Fuel Tank
Standard

Remote Fuel Tank (US Gal)
6.6

Remote Fuel Tank (L)
25

Shaft Length (inches)
15/20

Shaft Length (mm)
381/508

Dry Weight (lbs.)
115

Dry Weight (kg.)
52

Operator Warning System
Low oil pressure / Over--rev

Available Propellers
Standard equipment

CARB Star Rating
3

Warranty
3 Year Limited and 3 Year Limited Corrosion

 This should help     dave

I thought
pymy was now 20hp too.

do what everybody has done for the last 25+ years and change the decal. just sayin'

lakes would be mighty bare...and there would be no tourneys anymore. just sayin'

true all dat. just sayin'

also the fish and boat guys want to complain about lack of funds, well start checking and there's some income for them.

ORIGINAL: frost

I honestly wish they would check at the tourneys.  I have a 15hp kicker on my flat bottom aluminum bass boat and when a vee bottom with a 9.9, 15, 18, or 20hp fly past me like I'm sitting still it kinda gets the blood boiling.  I know my boat weights a little with the decking and the big motor, however there is no way a true 9.9 or even a 15 should blow past me and get the vee bottom up on plane. 

A law is a law and should be enforced.  I know people break laws, even knowing there are consequences, but they need to be enforced like traffic laws.  

frost,
I have a 15hp on my boat (14' starcraft Vee) and it is heavy with a full floor, casting deck, 6 gallon tank and 3 batteries and I can get it up on plane when I am by myself. I have had it up to 17mph going downstream on the yough with a light load!

Personally, as long as the motor is within 5 hp of the max (and even a little more on a 'toon), I don't have a problem with it because those guys are fishing and not pleasure boating so it won't be a constant thing. They actually throw a smaller wake zipping by than if they were plowing.

But, to advertise it on here....only asking for trouble.

ORIGINAL: jayamy75

Hi,
I just purchased a pontoon boat with a 25 hp Mercury 2009 4 stroke EFI. The lake I want to put this boat on (Lake Arthur) has a HP restriction of 20 HP. Have they been really looking for this? Is there anyway I can put 20 HP Decals on this motor to disguise it? Can I swap the serial number stickers on the transom as well? Has anyone done this and has it worked?

I'm just trying to get around spending $1000 to downgrade my motor when neither of these motors will push this boat very fast anyway.

Thank you,

You should've bought a smaller boat.

I hope you use the decals, I hope you get caught and I hope your fines are more than the other motor.

You should've bought a smaller boat.

I hope you use the decals, I hope you get caught and I hope your fines are more than the other motor.

 
That's kind of a d*ck thing to say.

ORIGINAL: jayamy75

Hi,
I just purchased a pontoon boat with a 25 hp Mercury 2009 4 stroke EFI. The lake I want to put this boat on (Lake Arthur) has a HP restriction of 20 HP. Have they been really looking for this? Is there anyway I can put 20 HP Decals on this motor to disguise it? Can I swap the serial number stickers on the transom as well? Has anyone done this and has it worked?

I'm just trying to get around spending $1000 to downgrade my motor when neither of these motors will push this boat very fast anyway.

Thank you,

Jay,

They are out in full force checking. A 25HP is basically worthless. A straight up trade for a 1994 2 stroke pull start Evinrude would be your best bet. PM me, I might be able to help you find that perfect trade (maybe even a few extra bucks too).

PT

Actually, the only time I've ever seen them checking motors was DURING a tournament. And that was when the HP limit was still 9.9.

If your not acting a fool, doing something dangerous, stopped over some other violation, or have 20HP stickers on a 50 HP motor. It's unlikely they'll ever check you.

A prop change can often make a big difference in preformance/speed.

if you put 20HP stickers on a 25hp 4 stroke motor you will get busted. you could get away with it on the 2 strokes but the hood on a 4 stroke 25 is twice the size of the hood on a 4 stroke 20. dont matter how fast your goin if your only fishing you could be trolling 1 mph they dont care when they see that motor they know its a 25 and your busted and you should be. its not a speed limit its a hp limit and its the law. its no dif than keepin a 14 1/2 inch walleye its illegal!