orvis mid arbor battenkill?

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2008/11/29 12:47:08 (permalink)

orvis mid arbor battenkill?

anyone use these?  really wanted an american made reel, and was looking at the teton tiogas, but the owner is trying to sell the patent (he is 87) and i am afraid they may not be around.  also, the price on the orvis is a lot better for me.  the only downfall i see is that they are made in china (orvis rep told me the orient).  any help will be appreciated.....thanks. 

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    Cold
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    RE: orvis mid arbor battenkill? 2008/11/29 12:56:19 (permalink)
    I own a BMA3 and I love it so far.  The only minor thing I noticed is that while yes, the drag is infinitely ajdustable for the most part, it goes from near free-spool to quite tight within about 5 clicks.  Not really a complaint, as I normally set my drag at the beginning of an outing and leave it there.  I got the 3 because I can use it with my 5 wt. for trout and steel, and when I get a 7 wt. for the tribs, it'll be able to perform double-duty on that rod as well. 

    It seems to be a well built, sturdy reel that has fit perfectly in any reel seat I've tried it in. 

    Another thing to be aware of is that this is a heavy reel.  If you're used to a very light reel, it will take some getting used to as it will definitely move the balance point of your rod toward the reel.  Moving from a graphite reel to the MA3 meant I had to get used to that big adjustment, and now that I've purchased a new rod (which really, is better balanced for the reel), I have to get used to a whole new balance again.  Just something to be aware of.
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    RE: orvis mid arbor battenkill? 2008/11/29 13:01:00 (permalink)
    wow, nice response....thanks cold.

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    RE: orvis mid arbor battenkill? 2008/11/29 13:06:54 (permalink)
    I have one on a 9 weight. Overall, i'm not thrilled with it. After taking it on a striped bass trip and giving it a good workout, the spool doesn't fit as well as it once did, and when I fight a fish with it now, the spool rubs on the frame. The guide I was with (who was an orvis endorsed guide) told me he doesnt like the mid arbors because they aren't well made. He was certainly right. I wouldn't waste my money on one.
     
     
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    RE: orvis mid arbor battenkill? 2008/11/29 13:29:14 (permalink)
    I have two MAs plus extra spools. Can't beat 'em for the price. Otherwise, what Cold said.
     
    You might want to look at the new LL Bean MA, too. You might prefer the drag adjustment knob. Still made in, ah, Asia (by Chinese persons) though, I think.
     
    I'd opine you'd be happy with either.
     
     
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    RE: orvis mid arbor battenkill? 2008/11/29 14:23:08 (permalink)
    If forgot to comment on tetons....
     
    If you find teton is staying in business, buy one. I own a couple and have never been disapointed. The drag sysem on the teton is 10 times better than the battenkill, and it's more sturdy.
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    RE: orvis mid arbor battenkill? 2008/11/29 14:42:42 (permalink)
    I have one I use with my 6 wt Winston. Had it about two years now. So far, so good.  I think mine was made in South Korea. Yea, I'd prefer to buy American, but as often as not a combination of factors be it price, availability, where I am at the time of purchase, how big of a hurry I am to buy, always seem to enter into most things that I buy. I have purchased a LOT of fishing equipment strickly on impulse. Saw it, wanted it, bought. Come to think of it I gotta start selling some of it off. Wana buy a hardly used Orvis mid arbor, cheap?

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    RE: orvis mid arbor battenkill? 2008/11/29 18:24:00 (permalink)
    Just wanted to add that an acquaintance had the biggest Orvis mid-arbor that, true enough, got a case of the spool wobbles after three years -- however, he'd used it exclusively in the salt and fished darn near every day in which it was humanly feasible. He maintained it regularly, but not obsessively. He's a quality control engineer at a Connecticut defense contractor, lives only a 10-minute drive from prime striper territory and often fished before work, on hiis lunch break and after work, depending on what the tide was up to. He was very satisfied with the product and recommends it.
     
    Also, you might consider how you will use your new reel. In some cases, you can buy a regular arbor reel, but in a size larger than you need for the line. (Say a #8 reel for a #5 line.) You then build an arbor with backing. The plusses of this approach are price and weight.
     
    There are a lot of choices out there and I'd say the one constant is that you should use the product before buying.
     
     
     
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    RE: orvis mid arbor battenkill? 2008/11/29 19:52:15 (permalink)
    There are a lot of choices out there and I'd say the one constant is that you should use the product before buying.


    If you CAN, that'd be ideal.  Unfortunately, I didnt have that luxury.  I think my next reel will be for a 3 wt. that I dont own yet , for which I plan to get the lightest reel I can get, with a real drag, and aluminum construction.  But for now, I needed a workhorse reel, and I think the BMA3 is exactly what I wanted. 

    Personally, I judge a wise purchase by the way I feel when I see and use it months down the road.  For this reel, every time I use it, I'm glad I got it.  Is it the best reel ever?  Certainly not.  Is it the best reel that $120 can buy?  Maybe not.  Is it a great fit for me and my fishing?  Absolutely.
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    RE: orvis mid arbor battenkill? 2008/11/30 12:49:44 (permalink)
    Rap.
     
    Take a look at the Ross's. They have models very comparable in price, and quality, and are made in the US.

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    RE: orvis mid arbor battenkill? 2008/11/30 14:05:53 (permalink)
    what wt rod are you looking to match?

    a reel on most trout rods end up just being a place to hold line...
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    RE: orvis mid arbor battenkill? 2008/11/30 16:49:18 (permalink)
    7-8

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    RE: orvis mid arbor battenkill? 2008/12/02 09:23:58 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: rapala11

    7-8

     
    I'd look at Galvans.
     
    A real 100% American business.
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    RE: orvis mid arbor battenkill? 2008/12/02 20:05:36 (permalink)
    I have a mid arbor 7 wt. I'm not too sure about it yet. I have only used it it in the Juniata. It's a little heavy. My 8 wt. Battenkill was made in England, and it is a much better reel than the mid arbor. The Korean made Battenkill reminds me of an Okuma.

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    RE: orvis mid arbor battenkill? 2008/12/03 09:06:52 (permalink)
    One word - Lamson.  They are awesome reels for the money.  I have two LightSpeeds and they are very well built and they definitely have what it takes to fight steelies.
     
    I also have a Ross Evolution and like it, but it really is not up to the task of steelhead fishing.  I have used mine for steelies and it does work well.  If you are only planning on using it a few times of year for steelies and the rest of the year you were using it for stockies, pan fish or bass, the Evolution is a great reel, but if you plan on fishing for steelies a lot, I would recommend something with a bit more backbone to it, like the Lamson.

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    RE: orvis mid arbor battenkill? 2008/12/03 09:57:30 (permalink)
    or carp fishing... they can give a drag a workout
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    RE: orvis mid arbor battenkill? 2008/12/03 10:14:52 (permalink)
    I actually blew the drag out of my Evolution fighting a steelie and had to send it back to be repaired.  They fixed it, but blamed the failure on me greasing the reel.  I never greased the reel, only a little light oil once or twice a year to clean it up.  I don't put any grease on any of my fly reels.  Oh well, it is fixed and works fine, but as I stated earlier, it really is not the best reel to use for steelies on a regular basis.
     
    Believe it or not, but a decent and incredibly cheap reel to use for steelies or just about any fish for that matter is the old Pflueger Medalist.  Bought one of these to put on a bamboo rod because I wanted a more retro look and ended up using the reel a few times just to see how it would work.  My initial thoughts would be the steelies would rip the guts out of it or it would basically suck, but was surprised at how well it did.  I am thinking about getting another one to put on a rod that I only occasionally use for steelies.
     

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    RE: orvis mid arbor battenkill? 2008/12/03 13:36:02 (permalink)
    Not of a fan of orvis but they do (or did) make decent reels.
     
    All I know is it's hard to beat a Ross. 

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    RE: orvis mid arbor battenkill? 2008/12/03 18:35:10 (permalink)
    I have a MA for my 7 weight that I use for steelies. Like some have said the drag adjustment is very slight to increase or decrease. Also last winter when it got damp like all reels do and the temps were well below freezing there was no adjustment on the drag - it just freewheeled. I took the spool off and wiped the surface off and that fixed it but only for a while. I found myself constantly doing this. I contacted Orvis - sent it back and they sent me another. Still no problem with this one but I have not fished yet in that cold of weather.

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    RE: orvis mid arbor battenkill? 2008/12/03 20:09:34 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: SilverKype

    Not of a fan of orvis but they do (or did) make decent reels.



    the BBS series is still made in england = better than the chinese junk
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    RE: orvis mid arbor battenkill? 2008/12/03 22:30:58 (permalink)
    I have the BBSIV and love it. It works well for salmon and steelies. I have an older battenkill on my 4wt and a large arbor MACHIIIand have never had any problems with them. For the price, you cant beat them.

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    RE: orvis mid arbor battenkill? 2008/12/03 23:35:58 (permalink)

    I use an Orvis Batternkill Large Arbor V, made in England in 2000. I like it.
    Also,(for back-up) I have the same model made in China, regrettably not the same quality as the English made reel. Thumbs down.

    I would checkout: (American made)

    Ross Magnum
    Teton
    Tibor
    Abel Super Series

    changes in latitudes, changes in attitudes....nothing remains quite the same



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    RE: orvis mid arbor battenkill? 2008/12/03 23:55:50 (permalink)
    beerman, i had my heart set on a teton tioga, but until the company is bought, i am afraid to buy.  the price was in my range.

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