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Frenchfly
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2008/03/21 15:04:28 (permalink)

Help for a novice

Hi guys!!
 
First I present myself, I'm Ben from France and I'd like to plan a trip for fishing the salmon river steelies and browns.
Here in france I use a 9' rod #5 I suppose that's not work for the salmon river.. What rod and line can I use (floating or sinking). I plan go there in november, I only can fishing with eggs or streamers?
 
I guess that's some stupids question for you but for me....
 
 
Thanx a lot
 
 
 
 
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    salmotrutta
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    RE: Help for a novice 2008/03/21 19:45:01 (permalink)
    Frenchie,
    There is a whole library of information on the old home page on the left colomn.
    Here's a link.......Have you been doing any fishing?
    http://www.fishusa.com/FishSalmonRiver/

    Lyrical
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    Frenchfly
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    RE: Help for a novice 2008/03/22 04:41:45 (permalink)
    Hi Salmo trutta,
     
    Yes for sure I'm flyfishing for more than 15 years, for browns and rainbows. But the technique is very diferent (smaller fish, smaller streams, delicate presentation on small dry fly...) for sure, now in France we have also some good rivers for browns (on dry) with a good average size (15 20 Inch) and No kill entire rivers that waiting for you !!
     
    Thanx
     
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    fishbreath
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    RE: Help for a novice 2008/03/22 07:05:23 (permalink)
    There is an active website about the Salmon River, Salmoncrazy.com that will give you a great deal of information specifically about your destination. Bon chance.
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    salmotrutta
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    RE: Help for a novice 2008/03/22 11:00:32 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: fishbreath

    There is an active website about the Salmon River, Salmoncrazy.com that will give you a great deal of information specifically about your destination. Bon chance.


    Not much fly help there. Mostly bait dunkers.

    All you need is a 6-8 wt, floating line & leaders that taper down to 8 or 10 lb. test. You may fish streamers, nymphs or egg patterns.
    Egg patterns do well at that time of year.
    Bright like chartruce early in the AM
    More natural (orange) as the sun gets on the water. That's my experiance.

    Lyrical
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    metalslayer
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    RE: Help for a novice 2008/03/23 05:55:01 (permalink)
    Gotta be carefull where you find info---some would have you believe a 5wt is enough for salmon and steel -----can it be done? Sure---but that's the jack wad screwing up the run for 45 min.

    Steel on a pin---so easy a caveman can do it.
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    salmotrutta
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    RE: Help for a novice 2008/03/23 07:39:50 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: metalslayer

    Gotta be carefull where you find info---some would have you believe a 5wt is enough for salmon and steel -----can it be done? Sure---but that's the jack wad screwing up the run for 45 min.


    Exactly.

    Lyrical
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    waDerboy
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    RE: Help for a novice 2008/03/23 13:50:22 (permalink)
    26ish pound king in under 20 minutes with a 3 weight bamboo rod. Course it wasn't my rod. Friend just wanted to see if I could do it. Glad it didn't blow up.
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    jonnyfishon
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    RE: Help for a novice 2008/03/23 13:55:48 (permalink)
    I landed a 20lb king once with an ultralight uglystick on 6lb test just for ****s and giggles.It was more like oh **** than giggles.Took me 10 min.
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    RE: Help for a novice 2008/03/23 13:59:01 (permalink)
    Frenchy i do little fly fishing on the sr but ive had good luck on black stone flys (copper heads)in nov.Eggs patterns are the way to go.Salmo is right on the colors.
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    salmotrutta
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    RE: Help for a novice 2008/03/23 17:35:38 (permalink)
    All you need to do is nymph style fishing only with heavier gear. You can practically do Chech. style nymphing in certain places.
    post edited by salmotrutta - 2008/03/23 20:44:57

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    jonnyfishon
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    RE: Help for a novice 2008/03/23 20:08:10 (permalink)
    Ok
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    metalslayer
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    RE: Help for a novice 2008/03/24 05:16:22 (permalink)
    I landed a 32 1/2lb king once on fly tying thread--but wouldn't recomend it 

    Steel on a pin---so easy a caveman can do it.
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    salmotrutta
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    RE: Help for a novice 2008/03/24 16:19:25 (permalink)
    That is as big as my biggest King.
    Got a possible layoff at work for the Hoho/Early Steel months.
    Almost definate for Browns/Steel Dec.-Feb..
    Get me a room ready.

    Lyrical
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    waDerboy
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    RE: Help for a novice 2008/03/25 04:26:08 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: metalslayer

    I landed a 32 1/2lb king once on fly tying thread--but wouldn't recomend it 

    Are you sure it wasn't that magic thread for tying sacs? That don't count for shat its got so much stretch.
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    RE: Help for a novice 2008/03/28 00:01:48 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: salmotrutta

    ORIGINAL: metalslayer

    Gotta be carefull where you find info---some would have you believe a 5wt is enough for salmon and steel -----can it be done? Sure---but that's the jack wad screwing up the run for 45 min.


    Exactly.


     
    Yea, I would suggest a 8 or 9 wt.

    I have the right to remain silent.....I just don't have the ability
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    salmotrutta
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    RE: Help for a novice 2008/03/28 16:08:39 (permalink)
    For what it's worth I use an 8wt. with floating line. Tapered leader to 8-12 lb. flourocarbon.
    If fishing water & fish smaller than the SR I use a 6wt..

    Lyrical
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