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Re: Trump 2024 2025/03/19 18:29:56 (permalink)
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And that salute -- wasnt a Nazi salute but a photo taken out of context--


You know who would disagree with you there? Germany.

Unlike republicans in the United States, Germans take Nazi cosplay bullshiit pretty seriously.

Ya boy Elon is extremely unpopular in Germany, because there’s a little bit of a Nazi thing in their history.

It is like debating a rock. He can’t form his own opinion. Look back after the corpse beat the clown. His first response was, of course Biden won. Then whatever FoxNews had him parrot, including the stop the steal BS. It is every issue, if he forms an opinion on his own, FoxNews changes it within hours/days. He has done it countless times. What can you really expect from a flat Earther though?

And yes, if taxes paid a salary, that would be making a living off of the public dime. That is what public dime means…. You are no different than those being cut for no reason by the clown crew.
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Re: Trump 2024 2025/03/19 19:06:53 (permalink)
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So, what you are saying is, until then, our jobs just get picked off one by one.



 
what I'm saying, automation and job cuts are a fact of life and have been "forever" 
 
when I hired in at Chrysler ('77) there were 3800 workers.
It took 46 production workers to man the Valarie  sedan door line . 36 and 38 for the K car and Omni respectively 
when I left in '90, there were appx 1800 workers and it took 9 people to make a door and 6 on the other line
 
a large press line  that took 18 workers in '77 took 5 when I left.
that plant (Twinsburg stamping) closed in '09 
 
 
when's the last time someone pumped your gas? 
I use the self checkout at Sam's Club and Giant Eagle 
 
Kiosk your burger & biggie pop 
 
what hasn't been sent overseas or outsourced to Mexico, is being automated every day.
 
To quote a wise man
 
"there's nothing new under the sun" 
 
KTF 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Trump 2024 2025/03/19 19:21:09 (permalink)
Porktown

 

So, what you are saying is



 
know what else I'm saying?
 
blue collar manufacturing has been taking a beating big time since the 80s and 90s.
It's nothing new for them 
 
with AI about to bust loose, it's the white collar sector's turn now 
 
KTF 
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Re: Trump 2024 2025/03/19 19:57:25 (permalink)
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Porktown



So, what you are saying is



 
know what else I'm saying?
 
blue collar manufacturing has been taking a beating big time since the 80s and 90s.
It's nothing new for them 
 
with AI about to bust loose, it's the white collar sector's turn now 
 
KTF 


TRUTH!!!
post edited by CRAPPIE_SLAYER - 2025/03/19 19:58:29
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Re: Trump 2024 2025/03/19 22:43:46 (permalink)
It’s all jobs with AI though, not just white collar’s turn. All jobs need a brain, which AI basically is an artificial one. AI added to the automated machines, especially human like, there will be no limits. See the Tesla Bot in question. There won’t be a safe job if left unchecked. It is basically taking what happened in factories, and putting it anywhere, but without the guy pushing buttons at the factory. Instead of regulating to at least slowly implement and save enough jobs for an effective economy, we are putting one of the leaders of the movement loose in the rooster house, accelerating the process likely by decades.

I was initially interested in seeing how Musk and Vivek working together in DOGE would be. You know, like many say, they are successful businessmen they likely have some good ideas. After seeing Musk take it over, if it isn’t at least concerning to people, they need to wake up. It isn’t just the government they are going to eliminate jobs from. It is all of society. Businesses/occupations passed down by generations are going to be wiped out. But yeah, it is just TDS….
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Re: Trump 2024 2025/03/19 23:00:43 (permalink)
We're just breezing over the TDS architect and the accusations and arrest of him eh? 


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Re: Trump 2024 2025/03/19 23:53:14 (permalink)
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Porktown



So, what you are saying is



 
know what else I'm saying?
 
blue collar manufacturing has been taking a beating big time since the 80s and 90s.
It's nothing new for them 
 
with AI about to bust loose, it's the white collar sector's turn now 
 
KTF 


TRUTH!!!


AI is busted loose friend. 
It will be a tool for workers to adapt to as much as as it will replace some jobs. 


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Re: Trump 2024 2025/03/20 01:50:26 (permalink)
Here ya go, DOGE cuts affecting campgrounds in PA. I knew it was only a matter of time. Bummer. I’ve camped at some of the raystown sites mentioned in this article.

https://www.inquirer.com/...mp;utm_medium=referral

I also typically camp at kinzua at least once a year. It looks like it’s still up in the air as to whether these federal spending cuts will shut down campgrounds at Morison, handsome lake or hopewell. Maybe it will just be a free for all so anybody can just camp anywhere they want in the ANF and turn it all into a garbage dump.
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Re: Trump 2024 2025/03/20 05:47:31 (permalink)
https://www.businessinsider.com/pterodynamics-ceo-shares-secret-to-transwing-vtol-aircraft-innovation-2025-3

$7M paid by the gubmint for trans drones!? The outage!
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Re: Trump 2024 2025/03/20 06:13:14 (permalink)
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 Instead of regulating to at least slowly implement and save enough jobs for an effective economy, we are putting one of the leaders of the movement loose in the rooster house, accelerating the process likely by decades.





 
you'll have to help me how one man is accelerating it by decades?
Big Corp will be driving it with or without Musk 
 
 
KTF 
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Re: Trump 2024 2025/03/20 06:47:12 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby r3g3 2025/03/20 10:33:08
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Re: Trump 2024 2025/03/20 06:54:37 (permalink)
https://wjactv.com/news/local/bedford-county-customers-benefit-as-businesses-plan-price-cuts

A little ground-level, local reporting instead of the screaming national voices.

Why the difference?

The poster formally known as Duncsdad

Everything I say can be fully substantiated by my own opinion.
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Re: Trump 2024 2025/03/20 07:43:47 (permalink)
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you'll have to help me how one man is accelerating it by decades?
Big Corp will be driving it with or without Musk 
 
 
KTF 

The guy has the backing of just about every GOP politician. You don’t think there might be some sort of favorable automated driving legislation passed between now and the midterms? I don’t think Musk will be pushing overall AI itself, he’s more concerned on its use in his products. Musk’s are pretty focused on blue collar jobs as I originally noted. Truck driving is something like a top 5 profession in every state. That isn’t a very long term target like his Tesla Bots are, that is easily next ten year time frame if he can get favorable legislation. The most favorable legislation for AI is no legislation, which is what seems to be the path right now. If you are saying this administration shows a track record of regulating, I’d have to disagree. No doubt, some regulation is well overreaching and outdated. I’d have to think something like this might need some sort of regulations?

Personally, until they have the actual robots going out to job sites and people comfortable enough to discuss and develop plans with them, I’m pretty comfortable my profession is safe. Some of the office tools might be more refined to do less office work. But we are currently implementing new design software that is slower and more buggy than what we have been using the last 20 years. I’m not too concerned that I won’t make it to my retirement target. Unless AI takes away fishing and need for bait, I’ll be good in my retirement plans too. Further generations, maybe that universal income will happen, but I can’t see it happening.
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Re: Trump 2024 2025/03/20 08:06:28 (permalink)
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https://wjactv.com/news/l...nesses-plan-price-cuts

A little ground-level, local reporting instead of the screaming national voices.

Why the difference?


Ah yes, WJAC, local news out of Johnstown. Known worldwide for their hard hitting journalism. This is clearly not a desperate puff piece.

The fact that WJAC is owned by Sinclair media, which is essentially the same kind of propaganda arm of the Republican Party as Fox or OAN or Newsmax or any others surely has nothing to do with this article. I’m sure it’s just a coincidence.

https://www.theguardian.c...tion-conservative-news


Remember this super cut where dozens of Sinclair News anchors in local stations all over the country read basically the exact same thing?

https://youtu.be/_fHfgU8oMSo?si=QVa_ZyTUpF3YOdFg


How much do you want to bet I could find a bunch of other Sinclair news articles in local news sites all over the country that have nearly identical content as this WJAC piece? Anybody care to wager?
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Re: Trump 2024 2025/03/20 08:41:52 (permalink)
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Here ya go, DOGE cuts affecting campgrounds in PA. I knew it was only a matter of time. Bummer. I’ve camped at some of the raystown sites mentioned in this article.

https://www.inquirer.com/...mp;utm_medium=referral

I also typically camp at kinzua at least once a year. It looks like it’s still up in the air as to whether these federal spending cuts will shut down campgrounds at Morison, handsome lake or hopewell. Maybe it will just be a free for all so anybody can just camp anywhere they want in the ANF and turn it all into a garbage dump.



All the sites on the ANF are maintained by a contractor (Allegheny Site Managment).  I guess as long as their contract is funded the ANF sites should all be open.  We'll see.  
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Re: Trump 2024 2025/03/20 09:12:48 (permalink)
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We're just breezing over the TDS architect and the accusations and arrest of him eh? 




This is actually pretty hilarious. I knew some MAGA nutter was trying to get TDS categorized as a mental illness or whatever complete nonsense. But I didn’t hear that he got caught trying to have sex with a 17 year old until this morning.

Where my psu fish at? Weren’t you on here the other day calling Jon Lovett a groomer or a pedophile? I think the pedophiles are coming from inside the house bud.
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Re: Trump 2024 2025/03/20 09:18:29 (permalink)
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You don’t think there might be some sort of favorable automated driving legislation



 
No more or less than normal for Washington politicians (left and right) getting grea$ed by Big Corp, lobbyists,  and deep pocket special interests.
Just 'cause he's hi profile and agenda driven talking heads  are keeping the masses fear mongered doesn't change that Wa$hington dynamic 
 
 
gonna quote that wise man again 
 
"there's nothing new under the sun"
 
KTF 
 
 
 
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Re: Trump 2024 2025/03/20 12:50:54 (permalink)
Two wrongs do not make a right. But three lefts do.
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Re: Trump 2024 2025/03/20 21:06:38 (permalink)
Operation Let them talk with be a Yuge success. The more Timmy Tampon and Chuck Schumer talk, the more the Dems polling suffers
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Re: Trump 2024 2025/03/21 12:16:00 (permalink)
It will be interesting to see if/how PA schools will be affected by the Dept. of Ed. cuts.  Had a good discussion at work about federal funding and Title I teachers (federal grant funded educators) and PA Intermediate Units and their funding.  I haven't been able to find info on the % of federal funds that make up PA Intermediate Units but I'm going to look.  
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Re: Trump 2024 2025/03/21 12:34:41 (permalink)
Was on a BOE for a while in Ct--Generally Fed funding averaged around 5 to 8 percent of gross depending on the year, and considering local and State input.
Fed funding always came with strings attached as  its use was concerned, including new initiatives the feds wanted and some maintenance of previous ones.
We regularly discussed how we could get rid of their mandates and if we could absorb the loss of their funding, that 5 to eight percent came to a real big number and always won the day for them as it would have been a big a pass along to the local taxpayers.
It would have also been a herculean task trying to also get rid of their mandates to alleviate that pass down on local taxes. If we could have even legally done it.
Glad to see the end of their influence coming. It was always a constant struggle managing some of their mandates we didnt feel really fit well to our system
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Re: Trump 2024 2025/03/21 14:05:24 (permalink)
PA keeps throwing money into education, but yet test scores dont improve, and my real estate property school taxes each July keep going up…

https://triblive.com/loca...pandemic-results-show/
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Re: Trump 2024 2025/03/21 14:34:26 (permalink)
It's not the federal government's responsibility to financially support our local schools. It shouldn't be the State's responsibility either.
Funding of schools should lie completely on the local taxpayers.
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Re: Trump 2024 2025/03/21 15:01:45 (permalink)
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It's not the federal government's responsibility to financially support our local schools. It shouldn't be the State's responsibility either.
Funding of schools should lie completely on the local taxpayers.


Let’s go even further.

I don’t have any kids. Why should my taxes pay for any schools at all? That’s not my financial responsibility.

Why don’t we just make the people that have kids pay for the education of their children out of their own pockets? Why use any public funds at all?

Can any of the conservative minded folks tell me why this is a bad idea?
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Re: Trump 2024 2025/03/21 15:43:18 (permalink)
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PA keeps throwing money into education, but yet test scores dont improve, and my real estate property school taxes each July keep going up…

https://triblive.com/loca...pandemic-results-show/

You know they are down across the country, right? Who would have thought removing kids from a classroom would have test scores down? Especially the youngest kids and those that have parents that weren’t able to be at home helping them actually learn and not just get by. I’d think even PSU branch campus education would require that sort of comprehension skills?

Fed closing education is just shifting taxes. The states that give a chit about equal access to education will raise theirs to capture, the others will just push to local. Most taxes are local regardless. Wealthy areas are already spending 2-3 times the amount of not more as poor areas. Guess who has better test scores, safer schools, nicer facilities, more to offer students? If you give a chit about your kids’ education, you buck up and pay the higher taxes. If you don’t or you don’t have kids, you move to areas with lower taxes. If you sort of give a chit, there are districts for that too… Pretty simple.
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Re: Trump 2024 2025/03/21 15:44:23 (permalink)
Yeah, we should definitely slowly erode the biggest PUBLIC resource in most communities.  That will be good.  Anyone that needs a field or a gym or a f-ing stage or a public building can just go pick themselves up by their bootstraps and build their own.  
 
 
 
 
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Re: Trump 2024 2025/03/21 15:50:51 (permalink)
https://www.tiktok.com/discover/dumbest-schools-in-pennsylvania
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Re: Trump 2024 2025/03/21 16:25:37 (permalink)
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PA keeps throwing money into education, but yet test scores dont improve, and my real estate property school taxes each July keep going up…

https://triblive.com/loca...pandemic-results-show/

You know they are down across the country, right?


I’m gonna make a guess here and say that I bet test scores aren’t down everywhere, in all districts, equally.

I’m also gonna go out on a limb and say it’s the poorest school districts with the poorest kids from the poorest families with the lowest test scores that are bringing down the averages nationwide.

And anybody that wants to fact check the idea that poor outcomes in education correlate closely with poverty, please do.

Also if anybody wants to post some hard data about what “test scores don’t improve” actually means, feel free to do that too.
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Re: Trump 2024 2025/03/21 16:30:23 (permalink)
"Out on a limb?" Did you watch the ticktock video?
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Re: Trump 2024 2025/03/21 17:05:51 (permalink)
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Anyone that needs a field or a gym or a f-ing stage or a public building can just go pick themselves up by their bootstraps and build their own.  

With all of the immigrants being deported, the Amish are going to be pretty busy.
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