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Re: Trump 2024
2025/03/05 15:52:14
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You see Pork, Will Thomas came from well to do Westlake Texas, was 554th swimmer then decided he was a woman. Then became #1. So how is that fair to all the young women who poured money, blood, sweat and tears into it?
If you would ever read anything that I have posted on this board about the subject, you’d see that I agree 100% about men vs women. I was a collegiate athlete, average D2 level. I would have been an Olympian as a woman. I know the differences very well.
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Re: Trump 2024
2025/03/05 15:52:19
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do you consider it fair play to allow those born male to compete against women in athletics?
You’re asking if it’s “fair”?
Is it fair that some people are born into wealth so they then have the benefit of better nutrition, better housing, better education, better everything?
ever heard of Lebron James?
He's a homeboy and I know his background and the 'hood he grew up in.
It ain't fair he had such advantages growing up ...er..umm.. never mind.
but your soapbox rant was a nice way to chicken chit out of answering the question
KTF
I did answer your question.
Are you seriously gonna try to say “LeBron James” proves that kids who are born into poverty do not have disadvantages in basically every aspect of their lives compared to kids who are born into wealth? Is that what you saying? Because I hate to strawman ya genie, but it really really really sounds like that’s what you are saying here and that is an utterly ridiculous thing to say. So clear that up pls.
And are you seriously gonna try to say that trans kids in sports not being “fair” is a bigger problem than kids who are born into poverty?
I mean ya there are millions of poor kids in this country where every day of their lives isn’t “fair”, but hey if we could just get rid of those 10 trans athletes in the NCAA then all of our problems would be solved, right genie?
Clearly the solution is a bigger, wasteful government full of trans men, and other DEI hires…oh wait that already happened, and got voted out, bigly.
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Re: Trump 2024
2025/03/05 16:12:50
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Much better ways to get more gold as you say than athletics.A drive to succeed and EDUCATION. Running a football or dunking a basketball is fine but most don't have that god given talent to get their gold that way.I still believe a person can be anything they want to be or accomplish in this country in spite of their situation.
No doubt, you do a sport for the love of it. If you are one of the best, maybe a school will throw a free/discounted education. Banking on being a pro athlete is like buying lottery tickets as a retirement plan. What you are saying is proving my point though. Those that come from money have much more advantage in life than any advantage a male has over a female in sport. Their advantage starts at birth and until they die and likely ten generations after them. Look at the 1000 richest people in America. Sure, you can name a handful of those that came “from nowhere”, 99% came from 1000 of the richest parents. Hard work and drive will get you places. Which is really the lesson of athletics. Teamwork, dealing with adversity, showing respect to your competition and referees to name a few other. Working until you have absolutely nothing left in the tank and maybe end up with a $5 medal to show for it, is someone I’d hire to work for me. Can pay them squat! 😛
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Re: Trump 2024
2025/03/05 16:22:35
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☄ Helpfulby crappiefisher 2025/03/05 17:38:11
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do you consider it fair play to allow those born male to compete against women in athletics?
You’re asking if it’s “fair”?
Is it fair that some people are born into wealth so they then have the benefit of better nutrition, better housing, better education, better everything?
ever heard of Lebron James?
He's a homeboy and I know his background and the 'hood he grew up in.
It ain't fair he had such advantages growing up ...er..umm.. never mind.
but your soapbox rant was a nice way to chicken chit out of answering the question
KTF
Here’s another one since you like to talk about what’s “fair” in sports. I played sports when I was a kid. I wasn’t great but I wasn’t terrible. I was faster than a lot of my peers and I definitely had more natural coordination and athletic ability than many of them. But some of them had fathers that were coaches, so they got more time on the field even tho their kids kinda sucked. Was that “fair”? When do you think Trump will draft an EO to address coach’s favoritism? Also, I grew up in a single parent household and my father didn’t spend a lot of time hitting ground balls and taking me to batting cages. But other kids who actually had two parents had the luxury of lots of practice time, so their kids were better prepared for games. Was that “fair”? I’ll bet there are a lot more American kids who face the kind of “unfair” disadvantages in sports that I described above, yet we are talking about the tiny number of trans athletes in this country like they are a plague on our existence? Why is this even a thing that you all care so much about? Aren’t there real problems that deserve your attention?
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Re: Trump 2024
2025/03/05 16:50:52
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But some of them had fathers that were coaches, so they got more time on the field even tho their kids kinda sucked. Was that “fair”? When do you think Trump will draft an EO to address coach’s favoritism?
If I were in Congress, I’d vote for your Anti Daddy Ball bill. This is an epidemic. Talk to any HS athlete’s parent that doesn’t happen to be a coach and 99% would agree. Parents should be banned from coaching school teams.
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Re: Trump 2024
2025/03/05 16:52:43
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☄ Helpfulby r3g3 2025/03/05 17:45:28
To most normal people, boys play boys in sports, girls play girls…but the far radical left messed it up so bad, the new President had to say enough. This never should have gotten to this point, but yet here we are. One of many reasons the Dems lost.
You cannot say believe all women, then fail to define one, or let a dude win the sporting event. Apparently you are cool with Biden gutting Title XI.
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Re: Trump 2024
2025/03/05 17:04:58
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To most normal people, boys play boys in sports, girls play girls…
To most normal people, something that affects 0.00001% of the people in this country is not an important enough issue to influence their vote for the president. Unless of course, the real motivation behind bringing this up again and again and again and again and again is to deceive voters into believing it’s a much bigger problem than it really is.
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Re: Trump 2024
2025/03/05 17:26:06
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☄ Helpfulby r3g3 2025/03/05 17:45:50
LOL. You just wanna be obtuse…then wonder why Trump ran swing state table.
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Re: Trump 2024
2025/03/05 17:27:29
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For some reason, mobile posting likes to double post
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Re: Trump 2024
2025/03/05 18:14:48
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☄ Helpfulby bingsbaits 2025/03/06 07:03:35
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And are you seriously gonna try to say that trans kids in sports not being “fair” is a bigger problem than kids who are born into poverty? you zealots are whack'd how would you conjure up that out of anything I said? MyWarI mean ya there are millions of poor kids in this country where every day of their lives isn’t “fair”, but hey if we could just get rid of those 10 trans athletes in the NCAA then all of our problems would be solved, right genie?
are you being stupid on purpose ? Life isn't fair in general. and there is always someone that's smarter, prettier, faster, better angler or more privileged. Kids should learn that that's just part of life. MyWarI did answer your question. I guess I missed it?  Unless it's "I don't know if I support it or not" was your "non answer" answer? and then spun off to what's so fair about privileged kids vs disadvantaged kids (maybe your answer was in that rant?) which had absolutely nothing to do with my very specific and very simple question just to be clear, 'cause I am slow, so correct if I'm wrong. your answer was, you're "not sure" if physically stronger males competing against females is "fair or not"? would you be able to decide if it was a rich privileged MTF tranny in the octagon with a chic?  KTF
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Re: Trump 2024
2025/03/05 18:29:54
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☄ Helpfulby bingsbaits 2025/03/06 07:03:47
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Why is this even a thing that you all care so much about? Aren’t there real problems that deserve your attention?
It shouldn't be big deal it's a simple cut 'n dried thing. No, born males can't compete because they're physically stronger PERIOD! It's you zealots making it a big deal "normal" people agree males shouldn't be in female athletics. It's you zealots that lost your marbles making it "a thing" KTF
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Re: Trump 2024
2025/03/05 18:41:19
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GOP lawmakers put together a bill and Trump did an EO, because MyWar made it a thing???
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Re: Trump 2024
2025/03/05 18:54:31
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☄ Helpfulby psu_fish 2025/03/06 08:22:25
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This is an epidemic. Talk to any HS athlete’s parent that doesn’t happen to be a coach and 99% would agree. Parents should be banned from coaching school teams.
First of all, congrats to your daughter on her D1 opportunity! That's awesome! I live in a 4A school district with an OK to good overall athletics program. 2024-2025 school year varsity coaches with kids on the team: Golf Girls Soccer Girls Tennis Boys Hoops Girls Hoops Boys Rasslin Boys Lacrosse Softball Cheer Advisor/Coach is a mom If parents didn't coach school sports at smaller schools that don't have awesome athletics programs and facilities that attract highly qualified and skilled coaches, a lot of kids would miss out on a lot of opportunities and there would be no coaches, or horrendously under-qualified coaches. When my oldest son was in 7th grade, there was no 7th grade hoops coach 3 weeks before the season started, so I stepped up. Just finished my 9th season and coached my youngest two years ago too. Never heard complaints that I denied other kids opportunities to get my sons more playing time. Other than the occasional very disgruntled parents that are seemingly disgruntled about everything, I don't hear complaints about the varsity coaches who are parents either denying kids of opportunities. Even if I was qualified to coach a varsity sport - I'm not - there's no way I'd want to because of how crazy parents can be. If a parent has some skin in the game, wants to put up with all the other crazy parents, and try to build a program while their kid is in the program and/or help their kid and their teammates make some great high school memories, I'm all for it, even if their kid gets a little special treatment once in awhile. I've seen a lot of parents coach varsity sports in our district in my 23 years here. I've never seen another kid lose out on opportunities at the high school or collegiate level because a parent coach decided to cut off their nose to spite their face. Now, if you wanna talk about how horrendous daddy ball is in travel/pay to play sports below the high school level, I can talk about that for hours!
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Re: Trump 2024
2025/03/05 19:06:53
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Thanks.
For the daddy balling, like you said it is everywhere, travel, club, school. I only said school since it seems to be at least a bit more controllable with school board and other. I can see middle school with lack of coaches available. I guess small remote schools too. But I know schools around here have no issues getting coaches for any sport. The club coaching scene is loaded with coaches. If they love the sport, coach at the neighboring school of their kid. That is proof enough to me of why they are really there.
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Re: Trump 2024
2025/03/05 20:08:08
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☄ Helpfulby bingsbaits 2025/03/06 07:04:39
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GOP lawmakers put together a bill and Trump did an EO, because MyWar made it a thing???
are you being stupid on purpose too? KTF
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Re: Trump 2024
2025/03/05 23:20:32
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China's response to the tariffs. "If war is what the U.S. wants, be it a tariff war, a trade war or any other type of war, we’re ready to fight till the end."
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Re: Trump 2024
2025/03/06 00:23:19
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Trade wars with close allies. China openly saying they're ready for war.
You guys are talking about high school sports.
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Re: Trump 2024
2025/03/06 06:41:44
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☄ Helpfulby bingsbaits 2025/03/06 07:05:04
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psu_fish
To most normal people, boys play boys in sports, girls play girls…
To most normal people, something that affects 0.00001% of the people in this country is not an important enough issue to influence their vote for the president.
Unless of course, the real motivation behind bringing this up again and again and again and again and again is to deceive voters into believing it’s a much bigger problem than it really is.
MyWar you stated you can't understand why something thats supports only 0.00001% of population how can that influence your vote.Well than why couldn't even one dem vote for the girls sport bill if it really doesn't matter.Or even applaud and clap for that 13 year old cancer survivor and acknowledge his accomplishment.Neither of those totally human things would influence anyone's vote for president.But it's because of their TDS and their hatred of Trump and anything he does.
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Re: Trump 2024
2025/03/06 06:47:56
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Trade wars with close allies. China openly saying they're ready for war.
You guys are talking about high school sports.
Zelenskyy starting WW3 again.
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Re: Trump 2024
2025/03/06 07:23:47
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MyWar you stated you can't understand why something thats supports only 0.00001% of population how can that influence your vote.Well than why couldn't even one dem vote for the girls sport bill if it really doesn't matter.Or even applaud and clap for that 13 year old cancer survivor and acknowledge his accomplishment.Neither of those totally human things would influence anyone's vote for president.But it's because of their TDS and their hatred of Trump and anything he does.
Ice, you seem like an expert on this bill from how many times you have mentioned it. Since you have much more knowledge of it, can you answer a few questions. 1) How do the sports organizations/schools identify who is a female? Do they trust what a parent checks on a form? Do they trust what a birth certificate reads? Does every little girl that enters a sport take a genetics test and who would pay for this test? There was a controversy over an Olympic boxer that had a female birth certificate, raised as a female, but a Russian boxing official with a background of corruption claims that boxer “failed a gender test”. Not enough for the International Olympic committee to ban the boxer, but more than enough for culture warriors to send death threats and publicly harass that athlete. 2) How is this going to be enforced? Is there a new Department of Gender Verification? Will this pass DOGE, since obviously more important than Veterans Health, right? 72,000 employees let go. I’m sure there could be some waste in the VA, but letting go 72,000 employees without any sort of performance review or other identifying which ones are responsible for waste. 3) Does this address young women (who have went through puberty) who are at a physical advantage in sports against boys (who haven’t hit puberty)? High Schools have been allowing females in male sports for years. Is this being addressed in the bill? Just curious how this would work and you seem to be the one with the most knowledge of the plan. Again, I am 100% behind women in women’s sports and men in men’s sports. When it comes to legislation, like they say, the devil is in the details. For how often you point to this legislation, I take it you know the details.
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Re: Trump 2024
2025/03/06 08:44:11
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Itition's called a physical you drop your pants and the doc says cough or he says this guys has junk.Simple explanation.Not that hard been doing that forever.. Speaking of experts you libs seem to know just about everything esp defense and the my idiot really thinks he knows everything.I really can't understand why you libs aren't working for DOGE you have all the answers they need you guys.
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Re: Trump 2024
2025/03/06 08:45:06
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This is an epidemic. Talk to any HS athlete’s parent that doesn’t happen to be a coach and 99% would agree. Parents should be banned from coaching school teams.
Even if I was qualified to coach a varsity sport - I'm not - there's no way I'd want to because of how crazy parents can be. If a parent has some skin in the game, wants to put up with all the other crazy parents, and try to build a program while their kid is in the program and/or help their kid and their teammates make some great high school memories, I'm all for it, even if their kid gets a little special treatment once in awhile.
Agreed Snagr... If there were no parent coaches in my rural 2A district we wouldn't have programs. The parent dynamic is always one that is difficult to navigate, especially when parents have zero or very little knowledge of the sport. Most parents who know the sport will understand a coach's decision making if the decisions are reasonable. I have coached for twenty years at multiple levels including varsity sports. I have coached when my kids were there and when they were not. I lucked out because both of my first two kids were always good enough that there were no questions about their playing time. I don't currently coach my third child in hoops or v-ball but she wouldn't play as much, that's just reality. I want to win and I want to put the best possible product on the floor/field. There's also something to be said for being a coach's kid. At least the kid of a coach who does things right. That kid usually has it a little tougher than some of the other players. They are asked to do things that other players would not be asked to do. In my experience, there are times when they have it tougher that the other kids.
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Re: Trump 2024
2025/03/06 09:05:37
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GOP lawmakers put together a bill and Trump did an EO, because MyWar made it a thing???
Yes exactly this. This is another point I have stated several times. The Republican Party has made this an issue, not democrats. The history of attacking trans people for cheap political points goes back to bathroom bills, and North Carolina was the first state to push this bullshiit way back in 2016. Right wing media did in fact do a great job of painting democrats as taking some wild, radical position on trans issues, but that in reality that is completely false. Republicans started this debate and they keep bringing it up, over and over and over again. Which members of this forum bring up the subject of trans people? I don’t think I’ve ever brought it up once, and the only time I comment on it is response to FishUSA MAGA saying something shiitty about them. It’s a bullshiit culture war issue that right wing media uses to manipulate voters. Period. It should not be an issue that’s at the center of the country’s political debate.
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Re: Trump 2024
2025/03/06 09:25:30
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Trade wars with close allies. China openly saying they're ready for war.
You guys are talking about high school sports.
Yep, this too. 100% I’d also add a federal budget that all but eliminates Medicaid while giving enormous tax cuts to a tiny fraction of Americans who already more money than they can spend in their lifetimes. The thing is, this trans stuff plays in MAGA land, but it only works for so long in the real world. The moderates and the swing voters that broke for Trump did so because they thought it would mean more money in their pocket. And when they see him ranting like a lunatic about DEI, trans kids, and annexing Greenland, meanwhile they still can’t afford to buy a house or buy groceries, they will quickly tire of his schtick. The honeymoon is just about over and his approval ratings are already starting to dip.
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Re: Trump 2024
2025/03/06 10:16:18
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GOP lawmakers put together a bill and Trump did an EO, because MyWar made it a thing???
It’s a bullshiit culture war issue that right wing media uses to manipulate voters. Period. It should not be an issue that’s at the center of the country’s political debate.
Right, we need to get back to focusing on important things like Hunter's laptop and possibly Hillary's emails if we have time!! The whole political landscape in this country is a literal joke right now full of pretense, false emotion and sensationalism. It has been for awhile but it's only getting weirder.
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Re: Trump 2024
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Re: Trump 2024
2025/03/06 10:55:40
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In other news...
What a complete f-in joke. Great atmosphere here in the US for business...life...etc...the markets and business LOOOOOOOVVVVEE uncertainty.
Trump Likely to Defer Tariffs on Goods, Services Under USMCA - Bloomberg
Ever since the beginning of this tariff, no tariff, tariff thing, I have wondered how great it would be to have insider knowledge. It is a recipe for making $B’s off of markets. Especially options. I’m sure we will never know if anyone ever did and how much they made. Since we have known for decades politicians have done it and will do nothing to curb it. Some of the current moves, this is the only logical reasoning for doing it.
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Re: Trump 2024
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