genieman77
 
 
You and I may have ideological differences, but as long as we're honest, there's no reason not to be civil and have constructive discussions without malice 
 

 
You called me FOS when my post was not even addressed to you.  Your "civil, constructive, without malice" must only apply if you agree with the talking points.

DarDys

Have never watched Newsmax. Only watch Gutfeld on Fox because the show is funny. No idea who the other people you mention are. Don’t know what the Daily Wire is. Have never been on Facebook.

You see, and this may come as a shock to someone who needs others to point out the requisite talking points, some people actually think for themselves.

Gutfeld, hannity, whoever… they’re all saying the same thing. Which is what I said already.

As far as your public opinion diatribe…

Polling and public opinion is a funny thing. When you ask very broad, general questions, sure, you can get seemingly broad consensus in polls. Like if you poll questions like “is government waste a problem?” Or “does the government spend too much money? You could get an answer that might suggest there is broad public support for something like DOGE.

But when you dig into the details of what people believe to actually constitute “government waste”, there is substantial disagreement. So if you polled the actual programs that Trump is trying to eliminate you will get results which are sharply divided.

For example there is a SUBSTANTIAL amount of federal money that goes to medical research for chronic, non-infectious diseases, which could be anything from kids with cancer, to Parkinson’s, to MS, to Alzheimer’s. Do you really think that Trump withholding research money for kids with cancer is something that would poll well?

Do you think there is broad public support for a US president to eliminate FEMA?

Do you think the idea that vaccines cause autism polls well?

There is also polling that suggests:

1) majority support for additional restrictions on firearm possession.
2) majority support for a pathway to citizenship for dreamers

Polling also suggests that there is public support for “the Affordable Care Act” but not “Obamacare”. And there is also substantial public support for the government acting to lower insurance prices and provide subsidies.

https://navigatorresearch...ains-widely-favorable/

Beyond polling on immigration and trans women in sports, I doubt there is substantial public support for the vast majority of things this administration is ACTUALLY doing.

https://www.npr.org/2025/...wn-poll-deep-divisions

It’s also worth noting that Elon Musks polling is piiss poor. And although trumps approval is about the highest it’s ever been, it’s still only about 50/50. Biden was +23 at this point in his presidency, and Trump has never been anywhere close to that.

https://projects.fivethir...rability/donald-trump/

https://projects.fivethir...biden-approval-rating/

MyWar

DarDys

Have never watched Newsmax. Only watch Gutfeld on Fox because the show is funny. No idea who the other people you mention are. Don’t know what the Daily Wire is. Have never been on Facebook.

You see, and this may come as a shock to someone who needs others to point out the requisite talking points, some people actually think for themselves.

Gutfeld, hannity, whoever… they’re all saying the same thing. Which is what I said already.

As far as your public opinion diatribe…

Polling and public opinion is a funny thing. When you ask very broad, general questions, sure, you can get seemingly broad consensus in polls. Like if you poll questions like “is government waste a problem?” Or “does the government spend too much money? You could get an answer that might suggest there is broad public support for something like DOGE.

But when you dig into the details of what people believe to actually constitute “government waste”, there is substantial disagreement. So if you polled the actual programs that Trump is trying to eliminate you will get results which are sharply divided.

For example there is a SUBSTANTIAL amount of federal money that goes to medical research for chronic, non-infectious diseases, which could be anything from kids with cancer, to Parkinson’s, to MS, to Alzheimer’s. Do you really think that Trump withholding research money for kids with cancer is something that would poll well?

Do you think there is broad public support for a US president to eliminate FEMA?

Do you think the idea that vaccines cause autism polls well?

There is also polling that suggests:

1) majority support for additional restrictions on firearm possession.
2) majority support for a pathway to citizenship for dreamers

Polling also suggests that there is public support for “the Affordable Care Act” but not “Obamacare”. And there is also substantial public support for the government acting to lower insurance prices and provide subsidies.

https://navigatorresearch...ains-widely-favorable/

Beyond polling on immigration and trans women in sports, I doubt there is substantial public support for the vast majority of things this administration is ACTUALLY doing.

https://www.npr.org/2025/...wn-poll-deep-divisions

It’s also worth noting that Elon Musks polling is piiss poor. And although trumps approval is about the highest it’s ever been, it’s still only about 50/50. Biden was +23 at this point in his presidency, and Trump has never been anywhere close to that.

https://projects.fivethir...rability/donald-trump/

https://projects.fivethir...biden-approval-rating/

TL;DR . All that matters with you being a google search link merchant is that you lost, bigly.

ICE NUT
Here's the only poll that matters 77 million plus voted for this,the house,Senate,the popular vote all the swing states so stop whining libs.

79 million voted against it, so what is your point?

psu_fish

JerryS

ICE NUT
Here's the only poll that matters 77 million plus voted for this,the house,Senate,the popular vote all the swing states so stop whining libs.

79 million voted against it, so what is your point?

You really are the cope/harder in chief

 
This is the official MAGA position.  Since Trump and his actions are indefensible, ad hominem attacks are their only response.

JerryS

ICE NUT
Here's the only poll that matters 77 million plus voted for this,the house,Senate,the popular vote all the swing states so stop whining libs.

79 million voted against it, so what is your point?

you must use that fuzzy math cnn totals were 77.7 Trump and 75.5 for kamoola thats my point not to mention a very large electoral difference alsoMust have been how Kamoola lost 20 million vote difference from 2020 ripoff.

ICE NUT

JerryS

ICE NUT
Here's the only poll that matters 77 million plus voted for this,the house,Senate,the popular vote all the swing states so stop whining libs.

79 million voted against it, so what is your point?

you must use that fuzzy math cnn totals were 77.7 Trump and 75.5 for kamoola thats my point not to mention a very large electoral difference alsoMust have been how Kamoola lost 20 million vote difference from 2020 ripoff.

Over 50 percent of voters voted against Trump.  No fuzzy math there.

JerryS

psu_fish

JerryS

psu_fish

JerryS

ICE NUT
Here's the only poll that matters 77 million plus voted for this,the house,Senate,the popular vote all the swing states so stop whining libs.

79 million voted against it, so what is your point?

You really are the cope/harder in chief

This is the official MAGA position.  Since Trump and his actions are indefensible, ad hominem attacks are their only response.

Nahhh bruh. Liberal logic/math is believing that in an election where Trump won more votes then every other declared candidate, and won a plurality of Electoral College votes needed to secure office, he really isn't that popular.

Never mind, the party to which Trump is part of flipped several Senate seats, even one here in the Commonwealth, where the incumbent was a son of a popular governor.

This is very much a cope by YOU

Why didn't you mention Trump's party lost more house seats than they won?

Can you tell me which party has the majority in the house?

Don’t use analogies — it confuses some folks with logic that can be applied across subjects — lol.

Casually waiting for NPC #1 to blame the Delta crash while landing in Toronto on Musk and/or Trump…cause you know they both control the heavy wind gusts, snow and ice on the tarmac, and where inside the cockpit of the aircraft…