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Re: Arthur (Perchtober)
2024/05/01 00:45:22
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rippinlip I miss Trader Horns. Cheap ammo
Maaaaaan me too. I bought so much junk when the one in Pgh closed. Still have some nets and bags from it
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Re: Arthur (Perchtober)
2024/12/16 13:53:35
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Anyone know what is Artie looking like? I heard it was open last week, but then locked up with latest freeze. The forecast after Friday, looks like some ice making weather for sure. Wondering if today/tomorrow temps have things open? The lake needs a good freeze IMO. Last time I was out the dam area had gizzard shad so thick on the fish finder. I don’t recall a gizzard shad fish kill in a few years. Unless they just went unreported. I was out a good bit the past few years in March just after ice out and didn’t see any. I’d have to imagine they are competing with gamefish fingerlings. I know in years past with good freezes, it seemed to thin them out. I’d like to be fishing, but am just fine with a good hard freeze if it helps the future of the fishery. I wouldn’t mind these lantern flies getting frozen out too.
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Re: Arthur (Perchtober)
2024/12/16 19:02:03
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I think the only ice was in the shallow coves, I bet its all open after the rain today.
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Re: Arthur (Perchtober)
2024/12/16 19:54:27
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I was thinking this warmer day, rain and wind was probably a reset. Seems like any time there is a cold stretch, followed by a warm up. Hope the cold stretches are enough to thin the heard on the shad.
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Re: Arthur (Perchtober)
2024/12/16 23:09:23
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Porktown I’d have to imagine they are competing with gamefish fingerlings. I know in years past with good freezes, it seemed to thin them out.
Gizzard shad are planktivores, straining minute organic particles with their gill rakers into their pharyngeal organ which is thought to concentrate and process food for swallowing. They also feed heavily on detritus found on bottom sediments, individuals consume an average of 13% of their wet weight biomass in dry sediment each day. Their diet remains largely similar at different sizes and has been found to contain algae, phytoplankton, zooplankton, and plant debris. Because Gizzard shad are primary consumers, extremely large populations can be supported. Fry feed primarily on copepods and cladocerans, whereas adults consume large amounts of phytoplankton and zooplankton. Gizzard shad is part of the diet of at least 17 game fishes some of which include Walleyes, White Bass, Largemouth Bass, White Crappie, Gars, Black Crappie, Sauger, Yellow Trout, Catfish, Freshwater Drum, and Lake Trout. The Striped Bass and Muskellunge have been introduced into reservoirs to prey on Gizzard shad. Waterfowl also prey on the species. Winter die-offs cause individuals to float to the surface where they are consumed by crows, turkey vultures, bald eagles, and waterfowl. Gizzard shad grow rapidly in shallow, fertile impediments with abundant food and long growing seasons
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Re: Arthur (Perchtober)
2024/12/16 23:56:48
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Porktown The forecast after Friday, looks like some ice making weather for sure.
Warm stretch starting around Christmas. Crawlers were laying out for easy pickens tonight. Can't remember last time I used any so they are safe unless I head out to the Dodge and crush a few. Hey Pork, Getting purdy close to that 10,000 mark that only a select few have ever made it to on here. Maybe the Fish Erie/USA Fowke's can have a big party for ya?
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Re: Arthur (Perchtober)
2024/12/17 06:33:18
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Chris, it is the big ones that eat the plankton that would be of any concern. That is what the gamefish fry and alewives eat. The baby gizzard shad are excellent bait, those 15” ones, not even sure if musky will mess with them. Considering there are so many 7”-10” that I’d imagine are a little easier for them to eat.
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Re: Arthur (Perchtober)
2024/12/17 06:39:01
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crappiefisher Warm stretch starting around Christmas. Crawlers were laying out for easy pickens tonight. Can't remember last time I used any so they are safe unless I head out to the Dodge and crush a few. Hey Pork, Getting purdy close to that 10,000 mark that only a select few have ever made it to on here. Maybe the Fish Erie/USA Fowke's can have a big party for ya?
I have some crawlers in my fridge. Some might be years old…. Same with you on using them. I’ll go out and pick them in the spring when it is warmer out and bored. Then use maybe 10 in a year. Posts were purged a few times too…. Pretty sure you and I are well over that mark already.
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Re: Arthur (Perchtober)
2024/12/17 21:58:18
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Chris, how do you make your crappie and perch? Others feel free to chime in.
I focused most of my effort this year on crappie (deeper structure), wipers and wasting a ton of time for 3 walleye…. I’m pretty happy with results, obviously, not banner day all outings. But I learned a lot this year, or just got lucky a few more times. Still a few years off of retirement fishing, so don’t get out nearly as much as I’d like.
Eating wise, walleye hands down. Due to size, I like perch best, but a keeper walleye is bigger than any perch I ever caught. They both fight like a wet rag. Crappie don’t really pull drag either. I have eaten some cats and pretty good. I remember our conversations with Zielie Sam (always liked that dude, hope he is well), summer cats don’t taste as good as cooler water. So most that I catch go back. But every so often I add them to the cleaning. Most that I catch are really good.
Crappie are good fried, but their meat is sort of “mushy”. More, extremely flakey. Blackened is good, but often turns into ground meat. Great for tacos. I tried skin on whole, but too many small bones. Skin on filleted is good if you can get the skin crispy and meat not dried out. I have some skin on fillets that I am going to try breaded fried. So much more work to scale, then fillet.
I love getting skin on salmon when on sale. Skin it and then air fry the skin for 10 minutes (with salt & pepper or other seasoning). Leave 1/8” to get the red meat. Which ends up tasting fantastic when made with the skin? So good, but salmon is super oily and thicker skin, so seems to really fry. Going to try crappie, but doubt as good. Would be hard to leave an 1/8” on anything under 14”. Not sure if you guys have a “Fresh Thyme” north of town, but their seafood deals are pretty good. Coho fillets for $5.99/lb at times. They do jumbo shrimp for $4.99/lb. Snow crab legs for $5.99/lb at times. Usually $6.99, but not too bad. I’m betting anll are from some rather sketchy South Asian fishing grounds or farming practices. But taste good and priced right…. My game fish is probably close to $50/lb if you add up all costs, without paying for labor and processing the catch to a meal.
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Re: Arthur (Perchtober)
2024/12/18 00:03:45
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Tim, Try frying those worms in the fridge with your fish next time I like the Crappie and Gills more than the others. Figures I have mostly all Perch in the freezer from Oct. & Nov. Mostly just use seasoned flour then egg/milk mix and seasoned breadcrumbs and fry with onions, peppers, wild mushrooms & lemon. Going to use C.O.W. with Gills this week. When don't want to make a mess just a quick season and broil a couple minutes each side. If I fished from a boat once in awhile I would defiantly have one setup dragging a crawler with a shot of air in it. I have been using a featherweight rod the last couple years for Panfish and it helps making the fight more interesting on the Perch and Crappie. I would catch the Crawlers for my youngest son and (late) brother. Every year I say I'm gonna fish more but just doesn't happen. Oh well I play with soo much tackle it makes time a little better. Came home today after going through rooms and a basement of nothing but miscellaneous tackle stacked everywhere to 4 large heavy boxes of tackle that got delivered today from a out of state auction. I should go through some tonight and pretend it is Christmas morning . Love getting surprised what treasures are in there. Last week I felt bad when a bunch of tackle got delivered and realized the guy must of past on. Beautiful collections of a bunch of fly boxes, Plano boxes, tackle boxes just loaded along with 32 reels. Sad someone in his family didn't have any interest in this collection. Wish I could write as good as you guys do. https://www.youtube.com/w...ghWe0G_VYt&index=2
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Re: Arthur (Perchtober)
2024/12/18 11:38:57
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I definitely need to do more crawler harness fishing. I spent a summer or two doing it with very little success. Mostly catfish, perch and gills. I did get a few nice eyes in the mix, but like one eye to 4-5 other fish and maybe one fish per hour of pulling around. This was years ago, so I’d like to pretend that I have figured a few other things out since then. I have definitely figured out the wipers, where I can usually get 1-2 during the day at almost any time of the year. Which took me a while to do. The late night bite is great, but I just can’t stay awake like I used to.
I use a light weight slow action rod when panfishing too. Gives some bend and still fun. But those wipers seem to spoil when it comes to fighting. Make most other fish feel like a wet rag. Hooking a slab crappie is mostly exciting from the time you see it and “I better land this thing”!!!
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Re: Arthur (Perchtober)
2024/12/18 12:46:03
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Crawler Harness can be fun to tie up during the winter. Single gold blade and some beads all you need on 20lb fluro. Course can go hog wild and tie all sorts of color combos. Talked to a couple guys one day at the ramp, and they were big wiper fisherman. Seemed like they kept it simple with 2 or 3 oz egg sinker and circle hook, dragging bottom with shiners and chubs.
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Re: Arthur (Perchtober)
2024/12/18 13:10:15
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2-3oz, that is pretty heavy. I usually go 1/8oz., just enough to tick the bottom. Sometimes no weight. Just depends where I’m marking them. Maybe 1 oz if trying to stay vertical in deep water.
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Re: Arthur (Perchtober)
2024/12/18 13:19:42
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Porktown 2-3oz, that is pretty heavy. I usually go 1/8oz., just enough to tick the bottom. Sometimes no weight. Just depends where I’m marking them. Maybe 1 oz if trying to stay vertical in deep water.
They might have been heavy that day with wind...was couple years back. But I agree on using just enough to get you down where you need to be.
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Re: Arthur (Perchtober)
2024/12/18 15:02:07
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My guess is they were trying to keep vertical, sort of down rigger approach. Know how deep you want and controlled depth. Wipers don’t seem to be boat shy. Have caught plenty directly below the boat. I hear you on the wind. Call for 10mph gusts and ends up 20mph sustained from opposite direction it was blowing 1/2 hour earlier. Usually makes the shift right as I set up for that perfect angled drift. Terrova has helped that out immensely!
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Re: Arthur (Perchtober)
2024/12/20 11:38:48
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I have a 45lb front trolling motor on my 16ft'er and its way too small when some wind picks up. I m gonna have to try for a wiper in 2025....usually just target crappie and green and sometimes brown bass on that lake. Dont fish it alot, but think I can manage least one.
post edited by psu_fish - 2024/12/20 11:40:34
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Re: Arthur (Perchtober)
2024/12/20 13:26:51
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Best fishing investment that I have made is Advanced GPS trolling motor. Went way too long under powered and either hand or foot pedal controls. Foot pedals are excellent for working shorelines. Hand is nice to control you to a fixed location that you know. Throw in wind and both kind of blow. If in the budget, adding that bit more for the newer technology is worth it. A few nice features not on I-pilot. Just makes things so much more enjoyable on the water. Still going to fight the wind a bit, technology isn’t 100%, but beats the heck out of not having!
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