30-06 - 270 win

So you both like Rugers?  LOL
 
Not an argument either of you will win, pretty much a personal preference IMO...

Personally like single shot guns of all kinds for everything except Ducks- Use a Ruger #1 06 for Deer with a decent 3/9 X40. Before that was an 06 Win. mod 70 with a 3/9 X30.
 Long ago looked around for the ONE Cal. that could get me by for all large North American game. At that time Outdoor Life  did a comparison and where 06 wasnt first it was second.
 Jack O'connor their primary outdoor writer or his wife was using a 270 back in those days and talked about its flat shooting longer range capabilities. ( I'm dating myself here ).
The thing that made the final 06  choice for me was the great variety and availability of 06 ammo. From Chucks to Bears. After all, not too many of us are shooting out to 250 or more--thats another whole different class of hunting well beyond most of us and a VERY different game indeed. Heck- where I hunt ya cant even see that far -lol.
  My Youngest son shoots a presentation grade Marlin lever action .356 he picked up at a cheap price. It  was made by a guy at their factory for a relative who didnt want a gun - urbies. It is by far the hardest hitting Deer gun I have ever shot but finding ammo is difficult at best and when ya can find it ya better buy a few boxes-expensive too.
  Hey- some still use 30/30 with 150s- not my cupa tea but it seems that a Deer gun is whatever you are personally comphy with that can get the job done for your particular style and limitations.

The .270 is basically just a necked down 30-06.  At commonly used bullet sizes (130g for the .270 and 150g for the 30-06), the .270 is slightly flatter shooting, but not by a significant margin.  Roughly an inch difference at 300yds when zeroed at 150, and 3.5" at 400 yards when zeroed at 200yds.  At 500 yds the .270's edge increases by 8".
 
Conversely, the 30-06 has more energy out to 250yds, but not significantly.  The .270 has more energy out past 250, but again, not by much.  30-06  +120 ft-lb at muzzle and .270 is +50 ft-lb at 400yds.  If you decided to use the same grain bullet (not sure why you'd want to) then the 30-06's ballistics win hands down.
 
What this data tells me is with a larger hunk of lead and a bigger hole, I'd take the 30-06 out to about 400 yds.  After that I'd prefer the .270's edge on trajectory and energy.  I have both calibers and both do the job well.  On whitetail...take your pick, on larger game I'd take the 30-06 by a hair (actually, by .03 ).

Why not split the difference, I personally use a 284....

moooooo4me

so me and friend got into a real big argument about the two. me being set on a 270 says it shoots flatter and packs a little bit more of a punch past 250 yards, but dosent come in such a wide variety of shooting loads, his only argument was is the 30-06 is just a better gun all around. I disagreed!

he uses a ruger m77mk2  30-06. i use a ruger m77 hawkeye sporter 270

So im curious to know what you guys think? any feed is appreciated

You brought back a memory with this question. I used to have this same argument with my neighbor years ago. He was an elderly man who just love to razz me about everything. He favored his 270 and I favored my '06. Every year around deer season, he would rib me about shooting the deer in their knee caps. He said, the '06 didn't have the range as the 270 does. I manged to get quite a few deer with that rifle, in fact, I still use it to this day. 
When I bought my '06, I bought it for the knock down power, plus the '06 was more popular 30 years ago then the 270. 300 yards is the most accurate range for an '06 just like most high power rifles. I don't know about the 270, but, I had a co-worker who competed in rifle shooting contest and he used an '06. He shot targets up to 1500 yards with his sup'd up rifle and many military snipers during the Vietnam era did too.The 30'06 was the most preferred rifle.  Bottom line is, it's the skills of the person who shots the rifle, not the rifle itself. 

I pulled up some info from a reloading site i use. When you compair the on paper number the 06 is a stronger faster load.
 
With that said, i compaired the same grain bullet, made by the same MFG, using the same brand powder, only differ was the primer and the amount of powder.
 
Wouldnt you know it, the % less powder the 270 used was almost the same % less in velocity and enegry?!?!
 
Ok what that says is basicaly if you compair same amount of powder with the same bullet (brand and weight) you should expect the same results. (or close enough that your friendship should not end over it)
 
Its when you compair a 180gr 30-06 load to a 130gr .270 load is when things show differences. But in real world every day users you cant tell the difference if loaded the same.
 
Now hopefully we can move on to the important matters to talk about, like ford vs chevy or pepsi vs coke

And as for Pepsi vs Coke... Did you see the Pepsi's new "fat blocking" Pepsi? Seems eerily similar to the story line from "The Walking Dead"....

you guys all make very good points, myself i just prefer the .270 for its long distance capabilities my stand is set on the edge of a clear cut with a very big pasture between 2 patches of woods i shoot 130 grain swift a frame bullets, i droped a doe at 310 last year first day. so i know itll get the job done, our friendship will not end though and we will see who the better shooter is this weekend at the range, all comments were appreciated and enjoyed reading them on a personal note, chevy is better then ford and coke is better then pepsi IMO, thanks again guys

    Took one of those Psyc tests once when applying for a job- One question was weather or not I liked TALL girls.
    Welllll says my little mind- -thats subjective cause ' how tall am I??" I wrote down 'yes' anyhow cause I liked them all.
      Half hour later never found the question I was looking for- 'do you like SHORT ' girls.
     Welll now I was goin nutso while takin a psyc test- so I went back and crossed off the YES and circled NO.
     I passed the test but never found out if the right answer was Yes or No- or -since it was a Psyc test- if there was any right answer at all.
 Now ---on to cartridges----

My Dad is a 270 guy. Swears by its capabilities. But this year he's huntin with the 450 Marlin. Guttin should be a cinch, as there wont be much left inside.
 
BH

All the deer I've ever asked this question, said that they didn't like either one.