My Weekend Report

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2011/09/25 17:01:56 (permalink)

My Weekend Report

The ride up on friday was full of hope and anticipation. It was rainging when I left, it was raining in Binghamton, Syracuse, and all the way to P-town. It rained on and off that night. It was overcast and raining when we went out in the AM. Started Way above the Tressel and the 4 of us had no luck at all. Worked our way down to the Tressel with no hook ups. Watched a 10 min. episode of Discovery channels new reality tv show "Tressel Wars". (there were fish in there and they were hooking up I will leave it at that) Headed tothe base of one of the tribs. and fished the big river. There were quite a few fish holding there. I hooked up 4 times with 2 legit battles. Salmon 4 CP 0. After a few hours we headed for Ellis Cove. Place packed so we walked down to within 150 yards of where we fished up to in the AM. saw 3 fish total. No hook ups and one jumper below Brown's Campground. Fished from dawn until 6:20pm went for dinner. passed out. got up this morning and went towhere we had the hoook ups yesterday. Place was loaded!!! I mean stacked. With people of all ages, sizes, and nationalities. Saw a few hook-ups and 3 caught. in 3.5 hours. Made the long walk back to the truck and headed for home. Everything I heard was the same. Fish holding in the big deep pools. Nothing moving. very very slow, I don't know If I will even get back again. Might have to try for a November run for Steel. (Are there any browns in the river then? or have they already left.

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    dimebrite
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    RE: My Weekend Report 2011/09/25 17:23:23 (permalink)
    nice report cp- browns are in peak from november to late december; and they will be in the river til early february as they drop back... november is prime for browns... good luck... you can then have some luck with them again down low in the spring as they come in with smallmouths and atlantics starting in late march in to may... the best shot in the spring is in the lower river though... after the lake thaws browns are on fire in the lake; have yet to do the lake thing myself but they can be in real shallow water at times... hope this helps and good luck...
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    RE: My Weekend Report 2011/09/25 19:40:20 (permalink)
    I'll have to touch base with ya as it gets closer. Those big browns are mean lookin muthers. I wouldn't mind sticking a monster on my wall. lol
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    RE: My Weekend Report 2011/09/25 19:53:30 (permalink)
    Yep--even DSR and the usual pros havent said much in a week or two aside form a pod or two of Hos. Big pools--yea- they will hold there -watched them jump for the past few days on the downtown pool cam.
      They will come and when the do its gonna be something cause there gotta be a lot out front waitin to come - body clocks a tickin too.
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    RE: My Weekend Report 2011/09/25 19:55:36 (permalink)
    you've got my contact here; not an expert, but i have caught my fair share; i know some other areas of another river as well... spin rod is mainly required but they stack up... and to the regulars; i know its no secret

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    RE: My Weekend Report 2011/09/25 20:22:34 (permalink)
    Think we are in for a great mid October
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    RE: My Weekend Report 2011/09/25 21:16:07 (permalink)
    Just about every weekend in October is a no for me. I may be forced to get sick 1 day midweek and make a midnight run. The one thing that really puzzles me and I don't know why i can't figure this out. When I can't see them in the fast water thats fairly deep it seems like I am only hooking them by sheer luck. I run about 7 ft of 20 pound mono off of my fly line to a black barrel swivel from there i tie a tag on to put my weight. Then I attach abouta 3 ft length of 10 or 8 pound PLINE Flouro. to my hook or fly. I have tried enough weight to tap the bottom, drag the bottom, and very little weight so i don't touch the bottom at all. I cast straight across or slightly upstream follow the line with my rod tip. keeping the tip elevated (not sky high). cant figure out what i am doing wrong or missing when it comes to setting the hook. (I run the 20 because the flouro cut the loop on my fly line one time while I was up there)

    CP
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    RE: My Weekend Report 2011/09/25 22:42:37 (permalink)
         Later season been using the Noodle rod for a long time on Steel- seems like they fight so hard they really need that lighter top section of rod. Gotta touch bottom now and then during the drift though or your too high- kinda know what ya mean with the weight cause I HATE a lot of weight on. Sometimes ya just gotta do it or just beat water and no fishes.
        Hoping that switch will do what the noodle did for me and heavier stuff like HOS at the same time. Hate breaking off bigger fish with the light noodle.
       Those Oct - Nov Steel are biters and if your where fish are using the right stuff your gonna get bit --hard too.
      Always used sacs on the noodle and have picked up lotsa egg imitations for the fly  (switch).
    post edited by retired guy - 2011/09/25 22:47:33
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    RE: My Weekend Report 2011/09/26 12:12:33 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: cpswing

    I run about 7 ft of 20 pound mono off of my fly line to a black barrel swivel from there i tie a tag on to put my weight. Then I attach abouta 3 ft length of 10 or 8 pound PLINE Flouro. to my hook or fly. I have tried enough weight to tap the bottom,CP


    Keep tossing with that set-up..
    Good luck to you.

    Loop to Loop Connections to FlyLine/any line - there is a right and wrong way to attach loop to loops - examples on youtube.

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    RE: My Weekend Report 2011/09/26 19:16:49 (permalink)
    I'll have to check it on u tube. I just didn't know what to do to connect it. It's hard when u only get an average of 2 trips a year to pick things up fast unless you meet the right person on the river and even then you don't want to pester the hell out of them, but they're hooking up left and right and I throw the same thing and nothing.lol Usuajlly a pretty quick study when it comes to fishing and hunting, but this has been a bit frustrating. Keep the hope I guess, and the scenery is pretty nice.

    Thanks
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    RE: My Weekend Report 2011/09/28 07:38:06 (permalink)
    CP, you can nail knot   40 lb. mono  with a perfection  0r double surgeon's loop tied 5-6"  from that connection.  Then use  a loop tied in your 20 lb. to attach.  Use the handshake loop to loop knot . Slide the loop of the leader over the flyline loop, bring the end of the leader through the flyline loop  and tighten. Google Jason Borger knots, he has some excellent explanations and some great knots that many people don't use. If I buy flylines that have a plastic loop built in to the fly line- I cut them off first thing.  I have had them fail on me. I cover the nail knot with aquaseal or gel superglue , or Loon knot sense to smooth it out for going through the guides and adding a little strength. I've never had this fail. You can also add another couple feet of 30 lb in as a leader butt, then continue on with your leader as described. The longer the leader , the quicker the sinking and getting in the zone and the heavier butt will also help it turn over if you're not chuck and duck.
     
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    RE: My Weekend Report 2011/09/28 07:56:52 (permalink)
    Excellent set up charlie; I more or less tie similar set ups myself... one question though... are you ever affraid of that 40 lb. Butt line getting wrapped from a hot fish while you're backing is out??? Just asking because its happened to me before; so I never start with anything more than 30# line for a butt in fear of losing a fly line on a hot fish.... tight lines...
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    RE: My Weekend Report 2011/09/28 11:42:28 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: cpswing

    I'll have to check it on u tube. I just didn't know what to do to connect it.Thanks
    CP


    Correct loop to loop connection starts at 2:40 part of video - eazy..

    Fichy put it into words wonderfully, but a pic always helps too.

    loops
    post edited by draketrutta - 2011/09/28 11:45:19
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    RE: My Weekend Report 2011/09/28 17:54:25 (permalink)
    You'd probably break the flyline at the nail knot, as long as you could reach the flyline (most have 30 lb cores over 7 wt.  No, I've never worried  about that.  Kind of hard to wrap up 5-6" of line anyway. I have lost a flyline to a cross way in the backing and had the backing pop on a very large striper in shallow water. I couldn't imagine not being able to get within a flyline 's distance of a snag on the SR.  It should have been snapped off before it got that far. I don't use Spey rods, so efficient transfer of power through the leader is more critical. Small leader materials dig in to the line coating more and tend to cut and slip over time. That's why I use heavier line for the nail knot and the loop. Almost every thing I've ever learned and a whole lot more is on You Tube. It's kind of a total waste of time to just read the  BS that I write.  I use to instruct and work in a flyshop, I was use to offering advice and teaching, it's easier to get it off a video these days. I really hate to argue, I just do what I've learned, and for the most part, it works for ME.  Reports like PA is putting up are far more helpful and entertaining.


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    post edited by fichy - 2011/09/28 18:01:12
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    RE: My Weekend Report 2011/09/28 20:37:00 (permalink)
    I wonder how that leader setup turns over? Tapered leader. Start with .023, 3 wrap nail knot till you get to around .015 then 5 wraps. Wet before setting knots.

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    RE: My Weekend Report 2011/09/28 20:49:57 (permalink)
    Hey, I appreciaate any intel and will be sure to check you tube. It really does help to be able to talk to or read alot of your posts. Maybe someday I can actually get up there for a lesson lol. That is if a major catastrophe doesn't occur while i am gone. (happens every time)

    Thanks again

    CP
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