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Re: Lake Wilhelm needs HELP 2014/03/15 00:35:18 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby crappiefisher 2014/03/15 01:03:08
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Re: Lake Wilhelm needs HELP 2014/03/15 21:37:42 (permalink)
SAY NO to eliminating H.P. limits and/or adding speed limits.
 I have a large boat with 100 H.p. I wouldn't dream of wanting to use it on this lake. That's what I have my 14' aluminum boat with 7.5 gamefisher.
 It all I need for fishing lakes like this.
 Could you imagine being on your small craft crappie fishing and speed boats and waverunners around you. Been there on larger lakes. SUCKS
 Also, How the heck do you expect anybody to enforce speed limits. JUST PLAIN STUPID

It's your fish story,so tell it any way you want!!!
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Re: Lake Wilhelm needs HELP 2014/03/19 00:06:57 (permalink)
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FF,
I'd say mostly from winter die offs. Then the predators help to a better balance,  At least the lake closest near I.
 
crappy


Many states stock the byrds for that very reason.  I am not sure if that is "why" Arthur and Shenango get them, would guess that it is part of the equation.  Being sterile (or 99%), fast growing and not an extremely long life span, they are easy for the PFBC to manage taking over.  That said, they are eating machines and will wipe out other species that weren't intended to be controlled.  To me, beats the heck out of draining and re-stocking.  Do a few years of heavy wiper stocking and see what happens.  They will definitely eat their share of the 1"-10" gizzard shad.  Maybe add Wilhelm to the throw net list?  Not sure if the Amish would keep any gizzard shad for fish patties or not?

Last thing the amish need to do is learn how to throw cast nets.




 
Shad STINKK";. Great Coon bait & prob. decent compost. Hated to tell my my neighbor (old timer from these parts) when he was gonna flip wanna 'em in the bucket this .
 
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My son took his little o'le fancie Bass Boat up last summer for a 2 dayer & daier & the photos he showed me I woulda'' thought where from some kinda private fishin' club or somethin'.... purdy sure it was first time ever he fished it.
 
Everybody should have to go catch Salamanders & Crayfish that reads this before u can wet a line this yr....
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Re: Lake Wilhelm needs HELP 2014/03/20 09:51:55 (permalink)
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 Also, How the heck do you expect anybody to enforce speed limits. JUST PLAIN STUPID


Other states do it.  And that's what the speed limit would be in place for, jackwagon!  You wouldn't have to worry about someone flying past you full throttle with a 150hp.
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Re: Lake Wilhelm needs HELP 2014/03/20 11:44:35 (permalink)
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Everybody should have to go catch Salamanders & Crayfish that reads this before u can wet a line this yr....

Agree my man!  Dragging my feet replacing my boat floor (partially due to weather).  Got the kids a puppy, now I need to do a few puppy proofing projects.  With that and the weather itself, first day fishing this year, might be night time byrd watching...  Hopefully catch some salamanders and crayfish first!
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Re: Lake Wilhelm needs HELP 2014/03/20 11:57:56 (permalink)
And how the hell do you enforce a speed limit when most boats don't have a speedometer....
 
You set the speed limit at 20mph and my 14 ft with a 15hp motor will break that. How am I supposed to be able to tell my speed ?
 

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Re: Lake Wilhelm needs HELP 2014/03/20 13:39:43 (permalink)
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And how the hell do you enforce a speed limit when most boats don't have a speedometer....
 
You set the speed limit at 20mph and my 14 ft with a 15hp motor will break that. How am I supposed to be able to tell my speed ?
 


I said speed limit OR no wake.  Motors of any size would be allowed.  10hp and under would be able to operate at full speed while motors larger than 10hp must operate at no wake, idle speed.  Pilot lakes could allow full speed up to 20hp.  Besides, you are missing the one and only one reason that I want motors above 20hp allowed.  It is not for speed.  It is to allow those with a 40hp, a 75hp, a 150hp, etc. to able to fish more lakes without needing a kicker motor.  Other states fishing and boating enthusiasts have lobbied complaining that all should have equal access with reasonable restrictions.  Boaters or fisherman, regardless of the amount of horsepower, contribute to the maintenance and facility development of waterways all around the state through registration fees and excise taxes, but are prohibited from using many of the state’s waterways.  There are also secondary local economic benefits to allowing a more diverse boating population in an area; more business for local restaurants, bait stores, convenience stores, marine services, in addition to increased fuel sales.
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Re: Lake Wilhelm needs HELP 2014/03/20 14:24:55 (permalink)
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And how the hell do you enforce a speed limit when most boats don't have a speedometer....
 
You set the speed limit at 20mph and my 14 ft with a 15hp motor will break that. How am I supposed to be able to tell my speed ?
 


I said speed limit OR no wake.  Motors of any size would be allowed.  10hp and under would be able to operate at full speed while motors larger than 10hp must operate at no wake, idle speed.  Pilot lakes could allow full speed up to 20hp.  Besides, you are missing the one and only one reason that I want motors above 20hp allowed.  It is not for speed.  It is to allow those with a 40hp, a 75hp, a 150hp, etc. to able to fish more lakes without needing a kicker motor.  Other states fishing and boating enthusiasts have lobbied complaining that all should have equal access with reasonable restrictions.  Boaters or fisherman, regardless of the amount of horsepower, contribute to the maintenance and facility development of waterways all around the state through registration fees and excise taxes, but are prohibited from using many of the state’s waterways.  There are also secondary local economic benefits to allowing a more diverse boating population in an area; more business for local restaurants, bait stores, convenience stores, marine services, in addition to increased fuel sales.




 
If you don't like it, stay in Maryland.....home of commies and socialists!  :-)  pfffttt.....
 
Your trolling motors work just fine or get a kicker...
 
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Re: Lake Wilhelm needs HELP 2014/03/20 15:37:57 (permalink)
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Pork - totally agree lol.
 
I want to start getting the boat ready but this weather keeps changing my mind every other day! Maybe see you out there on the byrd watching this year, its become my new past time.


Not a bad past time H3!  Hopefully other projects don't jeapordize my byrd watching too much!  I'm trying my best to get it to a daytime thing, but still rather sporatic at best.
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Re: Lake Wilhelm needs HELP 2014/03/20 15:46:14 (permalink)
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And how the hell do you enforce a speed limit when most boats don't have a speedometer....
 
You set the speed limit at 20mph and my 14 ft with a 15hp motor will break that. How am I supposed to be able to tell my speed ?
 


I said speed limit OR no wake.  Motors of any size would be allowed.  10hp and under would be able to operate at full speed while motors larger than 10hp must operate at no wake, idle speed.  Pilot lakes could allow full speed up to 20hp.  Besides, you are missing the one and only one reason that I want motors above 20hp allowed.  It is not for speed.  It is to allow those with a 40hp, a 75hp, a 150hp, etc. to able to fish more lakes without needing a kicker motor.  Other states fishing and boating enthusiasts have lobbied complaining that all should have equal access with reasonable restrictions.  Boaters or fisherman, regardless of the amount of horsepower, contribute to the maintenance and facility development of waterways all around the state through registration fees and excise taxes, but are prohibited from using many of the state’s waterways.  There are also secondary local economic benefits to allowing a more diverse boating population in an area; more business for local restaurants, bait stores, convenience stores, marine services, in addition to increased fuel sales.


So my 15 has 10hp decals. It will cruise at 23 MPH, let me blow by a few big boats with their big motors at idle speed and see how long that lasts.
 
Slow no wake would be a complete waste of time to even put the boat in the water.

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Re: Lake Wilhelm needs HELP 2014/03/20 16:12:53 (permalink)
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Slow no wake would be a complete waste of time to even put the boat in the water.


Agree 100%, and I have a 50hp.  I'd much rather be able to fish a lake with room to stretch out.  Well worth the $800 spent on my kicker.  I could pull off of my boat, and likely have $700 in my pocket by next weekend.  Change the rules and it is worthless, are you going to pay those of us that bought one the difference?  With just about everyone else that fishes the restricted lakes gone, where is that secondary economic impact?  Don't forget every kayaker and sailboater that would never launch again.  Their registration payes for the launches as well.  There is nothing positive about it.
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Re: Lake Wilhelm needs HELP 2014/03/20 16:18:23 (permalink)
This does lead to wonder, if the electric automobile market takes off, and high powered boat motors start becoming electric, there might be a push to speed limits.  We are a good of time away from then though.  I would guess.
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Re: Lake Wilhelm needs HELP 2014/03/20 16:24:35 (permalink)
"no wake" works perfectly on Leboeuf....just saying.  I have (2) 9.9 kickers and am looking to sell them. Would much rather use that money to get a 4 stroke 6 hp Honda.  I HATE having to hook up my 9.9 every time I fish a hp restricted lake.  I don't trust the kicker mount amount to leave the engine on while towing. So before launching, I have to unload my 80 lb engine, hook it up to the mount, swap out fuel tanks and fuel lines, wire the electric starter, and attach the extension handle to the kicker.  I personally would rather just cruise around at about 6 mph where my kicker doesn't make a wake than have to fuss with all that.
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Re: Lake Wilhelm needs HELP 2014/03/21 12:55:00 (permalink)
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And how the hell do you enforce a speed limit when most boats don't have a speedometer....
 
 

I forgot to reply to this one also.  LOL  You expect everyone to shell out the money to buy a kicker motor, but you would have a problem asking those with motors above 20hp to have a speedometer???  LOL  That sounds fair.  A brand new speedometer costs as little as $40.  A brand new 9.9hp costs $2,300+ and a brand new 20hp costs $3,000+.
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Re: Lake Wilhelm needs HELP 2014/03/21 13:45:03 (permalink)
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And how the hell do you enforce a speed limit when most boats don't have a speedometer....
 
 

I forgot to reply to this one also.  LOL  You expect everyone to shell out the money to buy a kicker motor, but you would have a problem asking those with motors above 20hp to have a speedometer???  LOL  That sounds fair.  A brand new speedometer costs as little as $40.  A brand new 9.9hp costs $2,300+ and a brand new 20hp costs $3,000+.


Crooked creek lake is close to my home it's also a UHP lake. Crooked Creek has no wake zones.... however it's not enforced, and it makes for an awful experience for a smaller boat, let alone a canoe or kayak or shore fisherman. So I choose to keep my little 14ft shallow v on restricted hp lakes (which is a further drive) when the big motored boats come out to play.  Buy the kicker, or stick to the river, or non restricted lakes.

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Re: Lake Wilhelm needs HELP 2014/03/21 15:01:58 (permalink)
Why did you quote??  Nothing in your reply had anything to do with my last post about the price of kicker motors that some on here suggest that those of us without simply do - purchase a kicker.
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Re: Lake Wilhelm needs HELP 2014/03/21 17:48:23 (permalink)
Why does everything have to be changed to suit the few ? Whats wrong with hp limited lakes ? Theres plenty of lakes and rivers out there for the big motor,got to go fast guys. The idea is to catch fish not run them down. You can create all the rules you want, have the greatest ideas known to man and I can asure you if even 2 people are involved one will break the rules. I,ve had a couple close calls on a 10hp lake with people you know have 15hp carbs on their 9.9 and you want to trust them to only idle their 80hp. Theres a speed limit sign right outside my window 40mph and the only time I ever see people go that slow is when the roads are bad or theres a cop in sight. Yeah I believe people will follow the speed and no wake rules, in God I trust others not so much.
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Re: Lake Wilhelm needs HELP 2014/03/22 04:16:16 (permalink)
   wJ,
 
 Think the guys r just bored after a long cold & just want something to discus & others for a subject for complaining / moaning.  can't see the lake in danger ov a hp increase over 20.  But if all these fishers say the lake ain't worth the effort fishin' maybe they should learn how to fish it or heck masz well open it for all boaters to enjoy if the fishin' sucks that bad. Seems nobody fishin' it to these dudes but it is gettin' fished out by a few
 
In the 70's the state was trying to make it a premiere PIKE lake that failed. Lett the lake decide what it wants to do with out help from stocking for 5 yr. min.  Certain native fish once established should not have to be stocked again in a water & lett the water speak for itself. Fishermen r liars if u ask if they r doin' any good & they say nuttin'  bitein' (NO MEENS YES IN 90% OV CASES)
 
  Can't believe Fish Erie ain't got no/E flowers under the 's
Pike in Heat
 
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Re: Lake Wilhelm needs HELP 2014/03/24 09:31:56 (permalink)
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Theres a speed limit sign right outside my window 40mph and the only time I ever see people go that slow is when the roads are bad or theres a cop in sight. Yeah I believe people will follow the speed and no wake rules, in God I trust others not so much.


So we should all be forced to sell our trucks and SUVS and only drive 4 cylinder and electric vehicles so we don't speed?  Your arguement doesn't hold water.
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Re: Lake Wilhelm needs HELP 2014/03/24 10:59:21 (permalink)
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Theres a speed limit sign right outside my window 40mph and the only time I ever see people go that slow is when the roads are bad or theres a cop in sight. Yeah I believe people will follow the speed and no wake rules, in God I trust others not so much.


So we should all be forced to sell our trucks and SUVS and only drive 4 cylinder and electric vehicles so we don't speed?  Your arguement doesn't hold water.


you're a donkey

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Re: Lake Wilhelm needs HELP 2014/03/24 11:31:47 (permalink)
 

you're a donkey



Tell your wife that so she stops calling me!
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Re: Lake Wilhelm needs HELP 2014/04/11 09:52:47 (permalink)
So anyway..............I've been up to Wilhelm every couple of days or so since ice-off hoping to see a huge die off of the shad and sorry to say, there wasn't one. A few hundred dead ones around the dam and some here and there along the shore line but that's about it.
Shrodreel, did you have a chance to talk to the park manager?
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Re: Lake Wilhelm needs HELP 2014/04/12 07:39:34 (permalink)
i,d be willing to swap wilhelm for shenango. UHP on wilhelm, 20 hp on shenango.
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Re: Lake Wilhelm needs HELP 2014/04/14 16:55:14 (permalink)
Trout fishing Sandy Creek this weekend in the town of Sandy Lake the banks are polluted with dead shad. I never saw it this way.
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