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2011/12/16 10:15:19 (permalink)

inline weights

Wondered if anyone has used rednek brand inline weights with a worm harness with any success or any type of inline weights thanks
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    RE: inline weights 2011/12/16 11:03:32 (permalink)
    Yes! I used them last year a little bit. You need to go SLOW to get them down when the fish are deep. Id recommend inline planers instead of big boards because the inlines will keep tension on the fish while it swings to the back of the boat.
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    RE: inline weights 2011/12/16 17:24:46 (permalink)
    I caught 75% of my fish last year on inline weights and harnesses. I agree with freshwater on the board tip too. You gotta check your worm a lot with harness fi****ng. It easier to check w an inline board instead of big boards.
    Redneckoutfitters.com has a depth chart that is pretty handy. I think they use a speed of 1.5 mph, which was a pretty good speed to slow roll some colorados.
    Speeding up, slowing down, turning left, and turning right makes your harness travel up and down the water column and vary its speed. Those big eyes can't resist.
    There is definitely a science to harness fishing with inline weights and boards. West of Connie that's all those guys use. It's a very effective weapon in your walleye bag if tricks.
    I was fortunate enough to fish with some guys last year that were inline pros. I learned a lot. It takes awhile to get it down but when you do its worth it.
    I don't have any redneck weights in my boat, but plenty of inline weights.
    An ounce of lead is a ounce of lead.
    post edited by eyedreamn - 2011/12/16 17:51:48
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    RE: inline weights 2011/12/18 06:25:45 (permalink)
    Delslap,

    Ya you got that right. Inline weights and walleye definitely go hand in hand.
    However, we did try that approach for trout this summer. It worked pretty good. We used the redneck chart to find our desired depth.
    We were fishing lake Ontario for trout and salmon. Our lead cores with a spoons were smashing the steelies. The problem was we only had two lead cores on the boat. For some reason we couldn't get our dipsys or riggers to fire. So we tried a inline approach. It worked. We found a match for ten colors. It worked pretty good. I think we were using between 5-6 ounces of weight at aprox. 2.2 m.p.h. We were fishing the top 75' over 400'. We got several steelies and a couple of cohos.

    Just keep in mind that the redneck chart is @ 1.5 m.p.h. I would imagine you would be a little faster for trout and salmon. Just add a bit more weight to get that desired depth.
    post edited by eyedreamn - 2011/12/18 07:06:15
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    RE: inline weights 2011/12/25 10:55:33 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: DelSlap

    Are there any kind of published figures (for Lake Ontario anyway) as to what is the ideal depth to troll for the 6 trout species
    and also by the month of the year?       Something that might look like this:
                                April       May      June      July       August       Sept       Oct     Nov
    Steelhead
    Brown Trout
    Lake Trout
    Chinook Salmon
    Coho Salmon
    Atlantic Salmon




    It as all on water temp up there as deep as the lake is a North blow can flip the lake at any time. The best investment is a speed temp probe and use the preferred water temp chart for each species, it really helps with down speed as well as the currents can be quite strong especially fishing the bar area.


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    RE: inline weights 2011/12/25 20:52:29 (permalink)
    Delslap,

    Lake O is way deeper than Erie, and yes in the summer the fish are targeted in the top 75' of water. The bottom depth could be 400 to 500' deep. The crazy part is you can get to 200' of water a mile or so from shore.

    As far as inline replacing riggers, not gonna happen. With riggers you can dial them in a lot better.

    I saw a temp chart for trout and salmon for lake O. I don't remember where is saw it though. To touch on what nuke said, he is right. It's all about the speed and temp up there. Walleye fishing in Erie not as import. ALL of the serious lake O guys have a speed and temp sensor off there riggers balls.

    I'm only starting to learn that other beast of a lake. A speed and temp sensor is in my sites for 2012.


    post edited by eyedreamn - 2011/12/25 20:59:17
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    RE: inline weights 2011/12/26 09:05:57 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: DelSlap

    Are there any kind of published figures (for Lake Ontario anyway) as to what is the ideal depth to troll for the 6 trout species
    and also by the month of the year?       Something that might look like this:
                                April       May      June      July       August       Sept       Oct     Nov
    Steelhead
    Brown Trout
    Lake Trout
    Chinook Salmon
    Coho Salmon
    Atlantic Salmon


    I found it. Olcottfishing.com there is a link st the top of the page "fish temps"


    post edited by eyedreamn - 2011/12/26 09:06:51
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    RE: inline weights 2011/12/26 09:10:02 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: kingnuke32


    ORIGINAL: DelSlap

    Are there any kind of published figures (for Lake Ontario anyway) as to what is the ideal depth to troll for the 6 trout species
    and also by the month of the year?       Something that might look like this:
                                April       May      June      July       August       Sept       Oct     Nov
    Steelhead
    Brown Trout
    Lake Trout
    Chinook Salmon
    Coho Salmon
    Atlantic Salmon




    It as all on water temp up there as deep as the lake is a North blow can flip the lake at any time. The best investment is a speed temp probe and use the preferred water temp chart for each species, it really helps with down speed as well as the currents can be quite strong especially fishing the bar area.


    I found that temp chart I saw a while ago. Olcottfishing.com there is a link at the top if the page "fish temps"



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    RE: inline weights 2011/12/27 17:15:43 (permalink)
    we got the fish hawk x4 system last year for Lake Erie fishing... What a great unit this thing is.  We mainly got it for actual lure trolling speeds at depth.  We all know how current can change things. It Really works great.  there was a couple days where our boat speed and lure speed had a difference of 3mph.  Good information when you cant figure out why the bite isnt happening.

    Lake Erie Fishing Charters out of Erie, PA.


    https://roughhousecharters.com
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    RE: inline weights 2011/12/27 18:18:31 (permalink)
    Fish Hawk X4 expensive but you get what you pay for. No coated cables to mess with only downfall is you need to add another transducer to the boat.
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    RE: inline weights 2011/12/27 18:27:59 (permalink)
    Roug & Nuke,

    Thanks guys! Your the best. I will check it out.



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    RE: inline weights 2011/12/27 18:38:20 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: DelSlap

    I've looked at the olcott fishing website and recorded the "optimum" temps for the species I'm interested in.   

    (The Olcott website says that optimum temp for Steelhead is 48-52 and this is a much lower optimum temp than any of the other 5 species)

    So using this as a "for instance" my obvious question is:   If it's early in the season and I wanted to target steelhead would it be in my best interest to use my speed-temperature probe (fastened to a downrigger device) and try to locate a depth that consistently gets me 48-52 ?

    Is this the way the professional trollers go about it? 


    I'm not sure if I can answer this question properly, because I'm not professional troller. Just a dumb electrician. However, There's not much I would rather be doing than washing some plugs.
    Anywho, when I was at the big o in the spring all I heard all day on the radio was water temps.
    post edited by eyedreamn - 2011/12/27 18:39:19
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