Proposed Spoon Ban

I agree total, except with the statement "above Route 5", I don't think that you should be tossing around a spoon unless your in the lake. But be realistic, they'll never pass a regulation baning spoons cause theres always gonna be those guys who say thats all they use and it works. Hell I think all treble hooks should be band in the creeks.

Ive seen some caught on spoons, but your smaller spoons. Banning spoons isnt going to stop snagging you still have roosters tails, rapalas, and heck jumbo jigs with size 0 hook. 

IF and it is a big IF you use a small spoon in a deep hole in the creek correctly, you won't snag any more fish than any other means of fishing, and spoons can produce well.  The sad thing in is most people who fish them either are intentionally snagging fish or are clueless as to how to use them in the stream.  I walked up on some guys not too long ago on Walnut fishing in the chutes with spoons.  I did not see what they were doing, but I thought it rather odd to be using spoons in the chutes.  I could see maybe a small rooster tail or Panter Martin or maybe a Mepps, but spoons seemed rather odd to me.  
 
With the increase in popularity of steelhead fishing and more guys coming up that are clueless as to the techniques used to catch steelies you will see some pretty crazy things. 
 
Maybe there could be a limit on the size of the spoons used.  Little ones, the tiny Cleos and Pheboes would be fine, but the big spoons are really over kill in the least and a recipe for snagging in the worst.

Bug,  I can assure you that in the right hands with the right conditions and the right water... (I know a lot of ifs), small Scorpions can be absolutely deadly.  To that point (and I would rather flyfish than any other method), I will fish spoons, along with jigs, spinners, plastics, bait, jerk baits... and have witnessed entire schools of fish in a creek turn simultaneously to track a spoon until one lunges out and grabs it. Under the right conditions, this can happen time and time again non stop in one hole. 

i think trebbles are a HUGE problem...
a lot of western water have endless amounts of regs... why not erie
I'm not looking for Fly-fishing only... that ie unrealistic

we are not protecting a native/wild/spawning fishery
BUT
we are protecting an industry... access...
I will make an assumtion a say that snaggers are the same people leavin trash behind... fits the M.O.

In 4 years of fishing the tribs (about 5 trips/year), I've seen waaaay more fish foul hooked by flies than spoons.  However, most of the fly guys I've seen will break off the fish whereas the spoon snaggers rope em.  Was on 7 mile that day Pete was talking about, fishing right next to those guys.  Saw them hooking up on every cast, and thought I'd chuck a spoon in there too.  After I foul hooked one, I quit, cause I realized what was happening. Couldn't see the fish that day, but I figured they were pretty stacked up in there.  Glad he had a WCO phone number.  I did not then, but do now. 
 
Seems like most foul hooks on flies are pretty unintentional.  Like elephanthead said, spoons are too expensive to lose.
 
But if you're trying to stop all snagging - whether intentional or accidental, that would be pretty tough.  Maybe some regs on certain streams or certain portions or streams would be appropriate and enforceable.  Probably just too much money involved for the Fish Commisison to take it seriously.

weight + 3 hooks = snagalicious !     Dave

YOU THINK..YOU THINK..
I THINK you bunch of pompous****tight liped fly flingin jerks dont know $HIT!!!
some one can snag with anything..just like you snag with a fly from time to time...
Give a new guy a little info and you wont have to cry on here...
If you tell a guy about snaging and he get ****ed because he is doing it intentionally than call the man or tell him to get the hell off the creek or go for a swim!!!
Take actionnot the SPOONS...I THINK!!!!

It's not.  I've CAUGHT plenty of steel with large and small spoons.  I've even had banner days in Manchester while the fly boys and paste chuckers sat long-faced staring at bored fish.  Sure, there are occassional fouls, but nothing went on a stringer that didn't have a hook in it's mouth.  Those fish, especially north of rt. 5 are fairly fresh from the trenches, where just a short time ago, they were being caught on, oh, no, large spoons.  There really is no need for large spoons in the tribs, but in the larger pools, they can be effective when nothing else is.  I certainly have seen the ultra lite guys throw tiny spoons with deadly results.  Legally.  Ethically. 

Call the WCO if you see INTENTIONAL snagging.  If it's unintentional but repeated, offer up some advice.  You may just help a fellow out.

Spoons don't snag fish, fools snag fish. = Guns don't kill duuds, duuds kill duuds.

Take the spoons away and take the guns away is the mentality of this thread.  Wrong, guys.  Way wrong.

TT you made my point with a lot less aggression,Sorry but these guys **** me off some times when they get stuck on stupid,I have caught fish with flys in them, Do you see me calling for a ban on flys???
I can watch a guy fish and can tell off the bat if he knows what he is doing, And if you THINK you know so much so can you!!!!
Call the man or lend a hand!!!!
GOOD FISHIN.. BRING ON THE RAIN..

Easy fellas . Just wanted some suggestions . Not saying people who use spoons are snaggers . The one fella is right uneducated ; unethical people snag fish no disrespect to your method . I was appauled when 6 grown men were showing thier youngest "the trade" that day. As for the fly comment ; not eveyone fishes flies on fly rods . I use a noodle rod & float ; not a strike indicator .LOL 

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Easy fellas . Just wanted some suggestions . Not saying people who use spoons are snaggers . The one fella is right uneducated ; unethical people snag fish no disrespect to your method . I was appauled when 6 grown men were showing thier youngest "the trade" that day. As for the fly comment ; not eveyone fishes flies on fly rods . I use a noodle rod & float ; not a strike indicator .LOL 

The minute you start suggesting banning a legal, legitimate activity based on the actions of a few you will get the backlash that this thread received.  That said, you will also get those that support these bans that represent special self interest groups (not a whole lot different than the Donny Beaver group).  Understand that just because YOU have not witnessed something (fish in less than 3 feet of water hitting spoons) does not mean that it doesn't happen and certainly should not be any sort of deciding factor in whether a technique should be outlawed.

Wow, you running short on your meds?
 
I not only told those guys they were snagging, I offered them eggsacks
and single eggs. Sure I foul hook fish, but I either pull the fly out or break
it off. I don't land the fish and put it on a stringer.  The WCO must have agreed with me about their techniques.

FiveMilePete -
 
I was definitely not referring to you as a snagger.  I was trying to say that in general, I see fly fishermen foul hook more fish than guys using spoons, though I realize that the great majority are accidental.  Sorry for the confusion.  You were certainly not part of the problem that day by any means.