steelhead_101
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Bring back salmon to Pa
Hey guys I was thinking about ways we could purswade the fish commision to start stalking cohos again. Im not complaning about steelhead. But id like to see a variety of fish and when my float goes down I want to wonder not just assume steelhead. Anyone have any ideas how I might go about this. If its a lost cause Ill just take my fishen gear to New York I sapose.
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RE: Bring back salmon to Pa
2007/09/05 07:07:38
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Better go to NY, from what I hear slim chance
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RE: Bring back salmon to Pa
2007/09/05 10:44:01
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Join the EPSFA ( www.epsfa.com) and help with the lobbying activities. Don't know if we'll get cohos back, but I would love to at least see browns again.
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RE: Bring back salmon to Pa
2007/09/05 11:56:10
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I would love to see the coho's and browns.
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steelhead_101
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RE: Bring back salmon to Pa
2007/09/05 19:25:20
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storm Thanks for the info. I will join and help in any way I can.
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tippy-toe
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RE: Bring back salmon to Pa
2007/09/05 19:32:53
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I'm with bug on the Browns Does they PSA have any lobbying power?
post edited by tippy-toe - 2007/09/05 19:35:48
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RE: Bring back salmon to Pa
2007/09/05 19:40:46
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hey 101 i think that would be awesome if they started back up the salmon program again anticipating that float going under and seeing the brassy sides and enormus kype gets the blood flowing not that steelys dont but a little variety is good but the state wants bang for the buck their reasoning i guess would be all pacific salmon die after spawning so there be it i woluld guess though maybe 10% of all steelies return to spawn again maybe more does anyone know for sure how many return to spawn again
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RE: Bring back salmon to Pa
2007/09/05 19:45:44
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I don't know if the PSA, or anyone has lobbying power in that regard. That's pretty much up to the fish culturists. The PF&BC does stock a limited number of Browns, as do some local clubs which the PSA does support. The Browns ARE there ( Jiggy hooked one last week ) just not in big numbers. Which in MHO makes catching one that much more special. I would hate for them to become as ho-hum as catching a Steelhead.
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RE: Bring back salmon to Pa
2007/09/05 19:50:42
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Yokel It is not just that they die after spawning. The lake simply can not support a significant population of Chinooks, and the return rate of Cohos was so low that they had trouble collecting brood stock. It is suspected that most Coho stocked in Penna. waters actually ran in Canadian waters. The cost per returned Coho, was well over twice that per returned Steelhead,
post edited by spoonchucker - 2007/09/05 19:52:11
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RE: Bring back salmon to Pa
2007/09/05 19:50:42
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spoon I agree....I would just like to see the browns make up maybe 10% of the fish
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RE: Bring back salmon to Pa
2007/09/05 19:54:12
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Tippy, The next time I talk to Chuck, I will certainly discuss the possibility of increasing the stocking of Browns. I don't know about 10% though.
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RE: Bring back salmon to Pa
2007/09/05 20:05:01
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spoonchucker your right the biomass in lake erie is really not conductive to salmon especially kings kings being pelagic feeders cant adjust to other food sources they mostly prefer alewives lake ontario michigan huron have healthy populations of alewives thats why the salmon never grew to the proportions of the other lakes here in erie but i still think the fact they dont return may have a little to do with it steelhead are very opportunistic feeders and dont really need an all fish diet
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RE: Bring back salmon to Pa
2007/09/05 20:30:21
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norm and brad just join me on a trip to lake michigan in a few weeks, all expense paid. all youll need is yourself sometime off and 3 days worth of jigs or flies. let me know Ill be up in a few days to see u to give u details.
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RE: Bring back salmon to Pa
2007/09/05 20:48:33
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ORIGINAL: spoonchucker Tippy, The next time I talk to Chuck, I will certainly discuss the possibility of increasing the stocking of Browns. I don't know about 10% though. Ok 9%... Thanks, let me know if there is anything I can do or say. On a side note I joined the PSA last year. Will they send me something for renewal or do I just have to join again????
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RE: Bring back salmon to Pa
2007/09/05 20:54:57
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How does one join the PSA, I am interested? Is it just a matter of going to their website?
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RE: Bring back salmon to Pa
2007/09/05 21:00:54
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I'm for more browns all the way. The salmon would be nice too, but seems like a definite issue there. The fishery is great, but theres always room for improvement IMO.
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RE: Bring back salmon to Pa
2007/09/05 21:08:41
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Yea just google Pa Steelhead association
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RE: Bring back salmon to Pa
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RE: Bring back salmon to Pa
2007/09/05 21:41:14
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Correct me if i'm confused but Erie doesn't have alwive only smelt yea or nay. It seems the chinook and all species do better with the higher food value feeding on alwive. Heck, I don't even know if I'm spelling the daned thing right. Maybe the better forage food base should be pursued first.
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RE: Bring back salmon to Pa
2007/09/05 21:50:23
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RE: Bring back salmon to Pa
2007/09/05 22:10:57
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smoothy that was what i was trying to say erie does not have a healthy population conductive to salmon growth lake ontario is loaded with alewives erie is not erie has some but not enough look at the max sizes they attain in lake ontario why ? alewives it would be like us who is going to get bigger me eating salads all the time or you eating mc donalds same with fish smelt make up a great portion of erie salmonid diet
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RE: Bring back salmon to Pa
2007/09/05 22:13:56
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Kyler, Dude, I'll go! lol
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RE: Bring back salmon to Pa
2007/09/06 11:47:26
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Tippy, I honestly don't know if we send renewal notices, or not. I don't believe so, I never recieved one. Inuk, There is a printable application on the PSA website. You can also join at both Poor Richard's locations, or at a general meeting. Tickets for the Big Run Banquet are also available at Poor Richard's. Memberships will be available at the banquet.
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RE: Bring back salmon to Pa
2007/09/06 11:51:37
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I would personally give donate 25 dollars a yr out of my pocket as well as many other anglers i bet would do to support some type of stocking again im all for it.....
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RE: Bring back salmon to Pa
2007/09/06 12:00:57
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All the above has hit on some aspect of stocking in lake Erie. But the skinny on fatty is the non native species act. Thats right money, this act cut off all funding for stocking of non native fish in any such body of water.If by chance some one had a over abundance of money and said I'll grant you several million to put Salmon in lake Erie there would be salmon.
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RE: Bring back salmon to Pa
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RE: Bring back salmon to Pa
2007/09/06 12:10:59
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wats rong with thiss peese of crAp
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RE: Bring back salmon to Pa
2007/09/06 12:12:49
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priKislanglR if yu need mony too stok saman ASSk intooguyz or Phatmary theey ar rich duud
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RE: Bring back salmon to Pa
2007/09/06 12:14:55
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ORIGINAL: fishrmn Kyler, Dude, I'll go! lol yur arrms ar too skiny too katch saman duud thay wil brake stik too stelheds or go lifft wayts
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