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2007/07/26 23:58:20 (permalink)

23 pound king from 20 mile?

rumor is a 23 pound king was caught at 20 mile in the first hole by the lake. this supposedly happened sunday or monday. anyone hear about it or see a picture.
i wa talking to some guys at lampe and they claim they saw it. i guess the kid was 18 years old and brought it over to the marina and had it weighted.
nice fish and glad theres still a couple around.
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    RE: 23 pound king from 20 mile? 2007/07/27 00:18:16 (permalink)
    The state record king was yanked out of cascade trickle a few years ago about this time. I wonder why these salmon come in so early. maybe for the cool water ?
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    RE: 23 pound king from 20 mile? 2007/07/27 10:21:59 (permalink)
    Huh????  That's even early for a King to run.  Guys don't usually even start fishing the pier heads in Lake O until the end of AUGUST.   Somebody got pics???
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    RE: 23 pound king from 20 mile? 2007/07/28 12:05:06 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: localknowledge

    rumor is a 23 pound king was caught at 20 mile in the first hole by the lake i'm ****. this supposedly happened sunday or monday. anyone hear about it or see a picture.
    i wa talking to some guys at lampe and they claim they saw it. i guess the kid was 18 years old and brought it over to the marina and had it weighted.

    im geting itt mownted duud
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    nice fish and glad theres still a couple around.
    woo cares
    post edited by yungguru - 2007/07/28 12:07:17
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    RE: 23 pound king from 20 mile? 2007/07/28 12:30:10 (permalink)
    thats whats beautiful about Erie. Never know what will happen. I remember about 20 years ago Elk creek was stuffed full of walleyes in June. you could throw out a worm an catch your limit. Never happened again though.
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    RE: 23 pound king from 20 mile? 2007/07/28 12:43:03 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: stream pike

    The state record king was yanked out of cascade trickle a few years ago about this time. I wonder why these salmon come in so early. maybe for the cool water ?

     
     




    Salmon, Chinook (Oncorhynchus tshawytscha)
    no image of record fish available
    Gregory Lasko
    Erie, PA
    28 lb. 15 oz.
    Lake Erie
    Erie Co.
    1990
     
    The state record was not caught in Cascade.The gentleman who caught the state record Brown did catch a large king in Cascade around 2000-2001 but it wasnt close to the record and it was in October
     
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    RE: 23 pound king from 20 mile? 2007/07/28 12:45:01 (permalink)



    Salmon, Chinook

    Angler
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    Date
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    Weight
    Length
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    Girth
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    Fazle Buljubasic
    Perry Square, Pa 16507
    Cascade Creek
    10/29/01
    Salmon Egg
    16 lb. 8 oz.
    38
    19
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    RE: 23 pound king from 20 mile? 2007/07/28 23:47:34 (permalink)
    peecy wil bee madd becawze a foriner cawt hiss fsh
    thet saman iss smal
     
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    thaynks phaTtmary
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    RE: 23 pound king from 20 mile? 2007/07/29 12:46:39 (permalink)
    thanks for the info treefrog.
     
    as far as 20 mile goes, i checked it out yesterday. the creek w3as low with just a hint of color. i walked from the mouth up to the bridge. i actually saw 2 salmon under the log just down from the bridge. i spooked them from under it with a stick. i dont know if its possible to drift to them because they sit underneath the big log. i will go down this afternoon and drift some skein under there. theyar both kings in the 10-15 pound range. i wonder if theres more upstream since the creek had some flow on friday.
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    RE: 23 pound king from 20 mile? 2007/07/30 00:00:29 (permalink)
    well, i went back and tried to hookup on the salmon. when i got there two guys from latrobe were walking up the trail. they were looking for salmon. i told them about the 2 i saw and we all went down to check it out. i couldnt see them but knew were theywere yesterday. i drifted about 5 times under the log without a hit. wanted too see if they were still there so joe(think its his name) went below the log and started poking around under it. the bigger salmon came flying out and almost beached itself then went down stream to the next little hole.the other salmon wasnt there or at least i didnt see it. i will try maybe tomarrow at first light if i can pull myself out of bed.
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    RE: 23 pound king from 20 mile? 2007/07/30 10:31:07 (permalink)


    thats why you need 1/4 sticks
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    RE: 23 pound king from 20 mile? 2007/07/30 11:59:54 (permalink)
    salmon do come in early,stay a few days,then go back out. a dwc guy told me they are called exploratory runs. who knows?
    I think there are salmon around burt dam any given day. maybe just one or 2 but they do come in. Iv'e seen runs as early as aug 14th at burt.
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    RE: 23 pound king from 20 mile? 2007/07/30 12:33:36 (permalink)
    20 mile in PA or NY?
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    RE: 23 pound king from 20 mile? 2007/07/30 13:31:43 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: pete-N-jill

    salmon do come in early,stay a few days,then go back out. a dwc guy told me they are called exploratory runs. who knows?
    I think there are salmon around burt dam any given day. maybe just one or 2 but they do come in. Iv'e seen runs as early as aug 14th at burt.

     
     
    Oh yea,we used to call them scouts.Most times a pair of males.
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    RE: 23 pound king from 20 mile? 2007/07/31 11:06:11 (permalink)
    I saw 2 guys fishing there last evening. was that you, Local Know.?
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    RE: 23 pound king from 20 mile? 2007/08/01 12:50:47 (permalink)
    might have been. i learned one thing though, dont put to much info on the internet.
    there has been guys there every day. at this point they can have it. last time there i only saw the bigger one, i dont know what happened to the smaller one.
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    RE: 23 pound king from 20 mile? 2007/08/01 13:23:07 (permalink)
    Welcome to the board.... your lucky most of the guys arent back on here yet for the year, you wait till the "spots" start being unveiled.

    NEVER, EVER EVER talk about your fishing spot on an open public forum.... share it with your friends, and dont even trust some of them!
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    RE: 23 pound king from 20 mile? 2007/08/01 21:26:03 (permalink)
    Gee, I wonder why there have been guys there everyday since you posted it on the internet......
     
    Good advise jlh..

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    RE: 23 pound king from 20 mile? 2007/08/01 23:54:59 (permalink)
    There's been a big run of burbot on 4-Mile Creek with a few kings in the mix.
    But don't tell anyone and, most importantly, don't post it on the internet.
     
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    RE: 23 pound king from 20 mile? 2007/08/01 23:58:29 (permalink)
    Be drippin'.
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    RE: 23 pound king from 20 mile? 2007/08/02 02:39:24 (permalink)
    Localknowledge post what ever you want to post. There is no such thing as "your spot" any where on any streams in erie. All the spots on the rivers that arent posted will eventually be fished by someone else claiming its their spot. Just like in the topic heat where peacymike said about what the locals claim about the out of towners... your responce to him was great! Im so thankful of family I have in erie now so I know when and whats goin on up there. Ive posted pics and got the 3rd degree about giving away spots or reason for people flocking to those holes... I say so what as long as they pay for the erie stamp then let them fish. Its a free country with a sport thats costing us an ARM and soon a LEG. might as well stick together and help everyone enjoy it... its tough being greedy. I would know I witnessed DB greed change him from a good guy in my eyes to what everyone warned me about him a greedy prik.

    but localknowledge Id give anything just to witness what u witnessed the other day. keep it up and good luck!

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    RE: 23 pound king from 20 mile? 2007/08/02 06:59:41 (permalink)
    well i can see that kyler while kyler was pulling out and dusting off hi noodle rod, he decided to bring out the soap box for another year....
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    RE: 23 pound king from 20 mile? 2007/08/02 13:12:45 (permalink)
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    Localknowledge post what ever you want to post. There is no such thing as "your spot" any where on any streams in erie. All the spots on the rivers that arent posted will eventually be fished by someone else claiming its their spot. Just like in the topic heat where peacymike said about what the locals claim about the out of towners... your responce to him was great! Im so thankful of family I have in erie now so I know when and whats goin on up there. Ive posted pics and got the 3rd degree about giving away spots or reason for people flocking to those holes... I say so what as long as they pay for the erie stamp then let them fish. Its a free country with a sport thats costing us an ARM and soon a LEG. might as well stick together and help everyone enjoy it... its tough being greedy. I would know I witnessed DB greed change him from a good guy in my eyes to what everyone warned me about him a greedy prik.

    but localknowledge Id give anything just to witness what u witnessed the other day. keep it up and good luck!


     
    Dude, don't be stupid. All we are saying is that if you post a spot on the internet ...the next time you go back don't expect to be able to fish it. Because people that lurk around on these sites waiting to be spoon fed info will be there fishing. I'm not saying don't share info, I'm just saying do it in a smaller forum like a bait shop, or stream side.
     
    C'mon use common sense!!!!

    I have the right to remain silent.....I just don't have the ability
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    RE: 23 pound king from 20 mile? 2007/08/02 13:33:53 (permalink)
    we both know people that cruise these boards just for hot tips wont go walking they are the ones who look for the spots they can fall out of the car and fish. 

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    RE: 23 pound king from 20 mile? 2007/08/02 13:35:45 (permalink)
    This is commonly called spot burning and most boards have either explicit or implicit rules about spot burning.  The internet is a great tool but it spreads information faster than some fish populations can take.  I've seen more early season runs that I've spent days of time on the water hammered with just a post ot two on an internet board.  Saying that you found fish in 4 mile is surley spot burning since it's what 8 or 9 feet long???
     
    Kyler,
     
    Take a breath man, you have a kid on the way and your gonna need it very soon.  Believe me...  This thread has more than 1700 views and only 22 poss by about 10 members.  That has to come out to at least 500 lurkers.  This site see's a trememdous amount of lurking and if you don't mind informing 500 people where you found fish after putting in 2 or three days of scouting, that's fine.  However, the other guy you fished with that you met on the stream might not feel the same way and if you burn the spot you also jacked him too.
     
    I'm not sure you can spot burn in Erie on the major tribs once the season is in full swing.  There's fish everywhere and a bit of walking will find fish. 
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    RE: 23 pound king from 20 mile? 2007/08/02 13:38:05 (permalink)
    Good points, tippy-toe and CR500! 
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    RE: 23 pound king from 20 mile? 2007/08/02 14:09:31 (permalink)
    "I'm not sure you can spot burn in Erie on the major tribs once the season is in full swing.  There's fish everywhere and a bit of walking will find fish."
     
    Scott,
     
    This is the point I've tried to make for years. Granted, if you post about catching fish miles upstream, in early september, you are probabley "burning" a spot. If you post about that same spot in mid october you are not going to have much effect. You might have gotten lucky, and had it to yourself for a day, but odds are the next time you went you'd find a crowd wether anyone posted about it, or not. By that time the fish ARE everywhere, and folks are going to fish where they fish, regardless of any posts on this board. 

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    RE: 23 pound king from 20 mile? 2007/08/02 14:11:47 (permalink)
    ...regardless of any POSTED signs, too.
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    RE: 23 pound king from 20 mile? 2007/08/02 14:48:06 (permalink)
    Spoon,
     
    Erie is a different kind of fishery.  It has an insane amount of fish and an insane amount of fisherman and is entirely artificial.  Early season, far up stream and smaller tribs I would think that standard etiquette apply but the stop sign hole or the treatment plant in late October is like saying that there is beer and chicken wings in a bar.
     
    Here is an odd thought though...  I would bet that kings have a better shot at natural repro than do steelies in the Erie tribs.  Steelies need a year or two in their natal waters before running to the lake and even if there is a two year period that leaves cool water in a large enough quantity I don't see the streams providing enough forage for that same period.  However, kings hit the lake in the spring and Erie tribs obviously allow some level of natural repro there.  If the slight amount of natural repro of kings dissapered I don't see a problem with that though.
     
    My thought about two kings in any trib in July wedged under a log is that they won't really be players anyway.  Go down to take a look if I lived a few blocks away, maybe.  Take a rod down to fish for them, I doubt it.
     
    My personal thoughts on spot burning and posting tribs or spots???  I just don't do it.  I might post "I fished Elk with a pin and had a great day".  I might post "I found a nice cut in the bar with a sweet outsuck and had a nice day on Assateague".  But more than that on the internet is more than I'm willing to give to the entire world.  If you called or sent an email I'd give you the holes I fished and the rocks I stood on or the exact mileage from what access point down the beach I found that cut.  That the kind common sence I think Tippy is talking about.
     
    If someone wants to post I caught 30 in the shutes today or I did 15 at the Leigon in late October or November I don't see anything wrong with that.  However, that also removes a person't right to post the next day that there were 1000 other guys there today and I couldn't get a drift too.
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    RE: 23 pound king from 20 mile? 2007/08/03 00:17:54 (permalink)
    live and learn i guess. I am 64 years old an this is my first computer. hand me down from my son. Guys I fish with always ****ed about the internet and it ruined erie bla bla bla.
    you know something they might be right. a couple of you sent me messages about the 1600 views on this. no wonder there are people there everyday this week. i realized computers and fishing enjoyment dont mix. it only causes your own fishing success to suffer. I know I'm just a old man ****ing about nothing but I learned my lesson.anyways sorry about this whole thing and maybe I will just lurk around reading others posts. who knows I might here about a good spot or two.
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