2025/01/02 11:37:54
genieman77
Porktown
Most have an idea of what you are getting by the look and smell of it. Now days, street drugs have a much greater chance of getting laced with stuff like fentanyl than ever. Sure, back in the day guys would lace with other stuff and usually sell to people knowingly paying more for it being laced. Now, there are people dying or having life long issues from what they think is just taking a puff of weed. 



 
donno about all that, Pork
from personal experience, that sounds like reeffer madness baloney
"back in the day"  or now
 
I suspect you've never been around or involved in the illicit drug trade and/or frequent the dens of iniquity 
 
 
 
..ktf
2025/01/02 12:16:47
Porktown
genieman77
as a recovered (by the Grace of God) alkie and opiate addict that ran with the alkies and addicts from 13 to 33, (and never met a drug I wouldn't try) as well as  helping those that want recovery help for the last 30+ years, 


Obviously, you have the insider knowledge of current drug culture. My bad.

I’m not saying it is some widespread epidemic. But you can’t put on the local news for more than a month without hearing about busts of fentanyl laced pills or other drugs being laced. I’d personally put more trust in state drug inspectors (that are already in place for medical side) than the scumbags that are making a quick buck by lacing illicit drugs doing the same with marijuana.

https://www.floridarehab....arijuana-and-fentanyl/

https://hnhu.org/wp-conte...ntanyl-may-16-2018.pdf
2025/01/02 13:08:14
r3g3
As a past narco detective  of many years am getting a kick outa recent posts.
One thing I hear from the few still at it who I know they commonly say Marijuana is dangerous on the street purchases now as its so often laced with things even some sellers arent aware of--
buyer beware.
2025/01/02 14:32:57
genieman77
Yeah, and people overdose by just touching fentanyl without gloves too....
 
don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see 
 
 
KTF 
2025/01/02 17:15:29
Porktown
Maybe I am duped by the weed thing? I did notice most sites that I saw about laced with fentanyl were mostly from addiction centers. But on the flip side, those saying reports are false, are “weed” council type sites…. Mike Dewine cited it in reasoning of backing Ohio legalizing. I may have heard this from him back then. I heard it about it from parents locally that I am sure was probably social media spread stuff too.

Back in the 90s-00s, I met plenty of small time dealers. I couldn’t see most of them doing it purposely, even if profitable. Most of those guys were stand up dudes more doing a service by small time dealing, usually to pay for their habits and beer money. Although I did meet a few really shady characters back then that I could see mixing K2 or other synthetic weed if it was available back then and financially advantageous. Not sure if they’d go fentanyl level, unless they were getting dirt cheap. If they are cutting it into illicit drugs to bump their profits, what is stopping them? If, it is financially advantageous, they aren’t just doing for fun. I’d think in reality though, more chances of being mixed with synthetic weed and looks like shake in the bag. But not sure if there is even brick weed any more? First few years that I smoked, that was all I ever saw. The last few years that I partook, I hadn’t seen anyone with brick weed and every bag was basically a large lolly pop bud with very little shake. But how sticky that stuff was, I can imagine it would be easy to spray something on and not know.
2025/01/02 18:04:05
r3g3
Still know some who are real lifers with the various drugs and have lived long enough to be careful and act normal even with some lifelong addictions. We, in some cases despite opposite ends in our younger years, have established a couple of great friendships. Even got a couple into rehab in old times.
They too say ya dont know anymore whats on the streets and do their thing VERY carefully. A couple are much harder core than whats being discussed here.
Despite around 16 in a dedicated narc unit I always felt peple do what they do but arent always bad people.
We got along well lol,
2025/01/02 18:22:44
crappiefisher
 The Government was racist against the Chinese, Blacks & Mexicans doing drugs in the past but not the whites. 
2025/01/02 18:37:55
r3g3
Back in the days they said that loud and often we always said he biggest dealers we generally took out were white guys in midlife who got in early and were smart enough to get good at it over years.
Sooner or later we took off quite a number of the untouchables.
Street and bar dealers were more numerous and easy prey as so many snitched on them as they became nuisances so there was a disparity in pinches, in our area and surrounding cites  we made sincere effort at the bigger cases along with the street stuff.
Street narcs did a lot of the nuisance pinches but some of us were deeper and looked higher and took a lot of time getting there sometimes.
**** fake registrations and working geographical areas not ,limited to one jurisdiction with a healthy budget helped a lot.
2025/01/02 18:38:53
genieman77
Porktown
Maybe I am duped by the weed thing? I did notice most sites that I saw about laced with fentanyl were mostly from addiction centers.

 
 
 
no one is putting expensive fentanyl is pot and selling it as regular pot.
Any pot laced with additional substances to enhance it charges for it and buyer is aware.
 
Now, can some dikbrain  offer someone laced drugs and not tell them if laced...as a "joke" 
Yep...it happens.
Back in the day, some dikhead laid out a line on the bar and told the bartender it was coke, have a snort.
It was really crystal tee (which makes you chitfaced  fck'd up and NOTHING like coke)  He thought it was funny.
It wasn't 
 
true, regulated weed won't be cut with worthless crap 
But pot heads know who they buy from and what they're getting
 
 
the narcotic trade is WAY different.
addicts OD because they don't know how much the drug has been cut.
Every addict street peddler cuts it some 
 They get some dope that hasn't been cut by several street peddlers  and is more pure than common, and pow..lights out. 
 
That's how my first wife (EX at the time)  died of a heroin overdose in '99
 
..KTF  
 
 
 
  
2025/01/02 18:46:24
Porktown
r3g3
They too say ya dont know anymore whats on the streets and do their thing VERY carefully.

Agree 100% and I have no doubt what your fellow officers mentioned about the amount they find with other drugs mixed in. I just looked into the fentanyl/marijuana claim after Genie called it bogus. Not saying it definitely is bogus by any means, but being almost all drug treatment centers as sources is sort of fishy. I think it really comes down to costs. If they can combine two things that will make them more money, there are definitely some scumbags that have no morale dilemma doing it. Like I said a few back, there are some that are intentionally selling laced to people that are knowingly buying laced (or whatever term you want to call it). Coke or PCP (dust) on weed was something a few guys that I knew that went a bit off of the deeper end did. Dealers likely aren’t going to sell that to someone looking for just weed, unless they paid them the cost of covering both. Not sure if most street dealers would let them know it isn’t just weed either. So, I’d imagine fentanyl is similar. If there is a demand for it, there will be someone supplying that demand. Hopefully there isn’t ever a major demand for that mix. I don’t know the current culture myself.

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