Have you ever listened to yourself ???

MyWar

r3g3
War-what do you expect when you essentially blame republicans for this murder by virtue of old court cases on people like Rittenhouse.

I’m not just talking about placing blame here, however calling out Trump and any or all of the right wing taste makers for glorifying dangerous behavior is definitely a part of my criticism.

My initial point was about double standards. Right wingers have turned people like Rittenhouse and Penny into folk heroes. Period. Full stop. No debate. No consideration for the fact that their actions were dangerous and short sighted.

But then it’s a surprise when somebody like Mangione decides to escalate the violence? And It’s incomprehensible that others don’t share the anger and resentment against a billion dollar industry that makes money by denying healthcare to sick people?

You want a world where everybody is running around with guns all the time, and everybody feels free to take the law into their own hands whenever they feel like it? Ok, this where that thinking leads. Don’t act so surprised when you get what you said you wanted.

 
Big brain energy on display again, lmao. You totally subscribe to the joy that Taylor Lorenz has.  

r3g3
Have you ever listened to yourself ???

Absolutely

Have you ever considered the possibility that you’ve been tricked into supporting a corrupt political organization by a deceitful propaganda machine?

MyWar


I’m not just talking about placing blame here, however calling out Trump and any or all of the right wing taste makers for glorifying dangerous behavior is definitely a part of my criticism.

My initial point was about double standards. Right wingers have turned people like Rittenhouse and Penny into folk heroes. Period. Full stop. No debate. No consideration for the fact that their actions were dangerous and short sighted.

But then it’s a surprise when somebody like Mangione decides to escalate the violence? And It’s incomprehensible that others don’t share the anger and resentment against a billion dollar industry that makes money by denying healthcare to sick people?

You want a world where everybody is running around with guns all the time, and everybody feels free to take the law into their own hands whenever they feel like it? Ok, this where that thinking leads. Don’t act so surprised when you get what you said you wanted.

 
I'm sincerely going to try to help you with how you err 
 
first off, you err equating Rittenhouse and  Perry as anything similar
One was a stupid kid that should of stayed home 
Most of us with professional training and/or common sense considered it poor judgement on his part to be there.
what we opposed was his prosecution for a justified shoot.
a jury of our peers agreed 
 
The other (Perry) was faced with  an immediate threat by a violent madman.
He IS a hero for protecting others.
To NOT support that, encourages thuggery.
To persecute those  actions  discourages good guys to get involved for fear of having their lives ruined.
The result are innocents being victimized while people stand around and watch.
 
 
"No consideration for the fact that their actions were dangerous and short sighted."
 
you assume wrongly they don't consider the potential dangers.
 
"But then it’s a surprise when somebody like Mangione decides to escalate the violence? And It’s incomprehensible that others don’t share the anger and resentment against a billion dollar industry that makes money by denying healthcare to sick people?"
 
I don't know why you and your talking head influencers link the two?
What does righty being angry about a deranged murderer have to do with whether we pi55ed off about the med industrial complex? 
The leftists are championing a deranged murderer in an effort to draw attention to a perceived ill 
 
You can't see how sick and twisted that is?!?!?!
 
 
"and everybody feels free to take the law into their own hands whenever they feel like it?"
 
your "perception" doesn't match reality.
You paint with a broad brush (another GLARRING fault of yours) 
 
 
Ok, this where that thinking leads. Don’t act so surprised when you get what you said you wanted.
 
where it leads is to is clear, "non nuanced" demarcation of right and wrong that ne'er-do-wells  understand 
 
 
lastly, If your wife/GF, mom or loved one was being victimized by a thug or madman, you'd wish a guy like Perry was  around
 
 
,,KTF
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Shocker....myWar age group polled at 8% saying it was acceptable...totally not shocked he is one of the 8% 
 
https://www.axios.com/202...hcare-ceo-killing-poll

Daniel Perry is a HERO in more ways than one. He is a former Marine Sgt which makes him a hero in itself marines do fight for people who cannot fight for them selves.He layed his life done before and did it again on that subway.You can't compare him to that little liberal PUNK who shot in the back that executive. I say Semper Fi to Mr. Perry we need more of them!!

genieman77
 
 
first off, you err equating Rittenhouse and  Perry as anything similar
 

 
They are both examples of vigilantism that are being celebrated and propped up by right wind media and the republican party in general. Rittenhouse was at the RNC this year and got a standing ovation. I can find and link dozens of online sources where right wing media glorifies him up if you want. I'm sure Trump has said positive things about him at some point. That is why they are similar. 
 
 
 

genieman77
 
One was a stupid kid that should of stayed home 
Most of us with professional training and/or common sense considered it poor judgement on his part to be there.
what we opposed was his prosecution for a justified shoot.
a jury of our peers agreed 

 
I agree that he was a stupid kid that should have stayed home, which is why it is not a black and white issue as to whether it was "justified". An investigation was absolutely justified, and the investigation determined there was evidence to go to trial.
 
Now I am not going to debate the outcome of the trial, but the part that we agree on - that he never should have been there in the first place, that is the reason why this should not be celebrated. 
 
 
 

genieman77
The other (Perry) was faced with  an immediate threat by a violent madman.
He IS a hero for protecting others.
To NOT support that, encourages thuggery.
To persecute those  actions  discourages good guys to get involved for fear of having their lives ruined.
The result are innocents being victimized while people stand around and watch.
 

 
So who gets to decide what "thuggery" is? Who gets to decide what is right or wrong or when its time to step in and "protect others"?
 
Penny gets to make that decision but Mangione doesnt? What if in Mangione's mind, the "innocent people" are the ones who got screwed over by the healthcare system and he's the "good guy with a gun"?  Republicans just set a precedent that encourages people to take the law into their own hands, just like Rittenhouse and Penny did. 
 
You dont have to necessarily agree with Mangione's point of view, but it all comes from the same logic - I am the law.
 
 
  

genieman77
 
 
"But then it’s a surprise when somebody like Mangione decides to escalate the violence? And It’s incomprehensible that others don’t share the anger and resentment against a billion dollar industry that makes money by denying healthcare to sick people?"
 
I don't know why you and your talking head influencers link the two?
What does righty being angry about a deranged murderer have to do with whether we pi55ed off about the med industrial complex? 
 

 
I dont even know what to say to you if you cant see why this event shouldn't spark a debate about healthcare in this country. Its plainly obvious.
 
 
 

genieman77
The leftists are championing a deranged murderer in an effort to draw attention to a perceived ill 
 
 
 

 
Which ones? 
 
  

genieman77
 
 
 
where it leads is to is clear, "non nuanced" demarcation of right and wrong that ne'er-do-wells  understand 
  

 
It most certainly does not. This idea is nothing more than magical thinking. Violent crime has not suddenly stopped since Rittenhouse and Penny were acquitted.

psu_fish
Shocker....myWar age group polled at 8% saying it was acceptable...totally not shocked he is one of the 8% 
 
https://www.axios.com/202...hcare-ceo-killing-poll

I never said it was acceptable.
 
Also, I'm still in my 40s so I would be in the 87% that doesnt think the killing was acceptable.
 

MyWar
 
 
They are both examples of vigilantism 
 
So who gets to decide what "thuggery" is?
 
Who gets to decide what is right or wrong ?
 
Penny gets to make that decision but Mangione doesnt?
 
 
 
 
 

 
I tried .
apparently you're  not capable of decerning right from wrong.
Your moral compass is severely  whack'd 
 
..KTF 
 
 
 

Sometimes War, I think you write this stuff tongue in cheek just to bait people as its so farfetched.