My gang of 5 all got double kills even though it took one of them til Memorial to get his second ,all were adults with 1 guy getting both with a compound bow. One father & son team got 1 each the same morning which was a thrill for us. Two guys got theirs early then waited for the late season to get their second bird,they said that way they didn't have to wait so long til next year. lol The father & son team was using that tungston shot with I believe #11 shot. That gives a lot more b.b.s & range. It seems almost unfair to the birds. Using that & a pop-up blind seems too easy,even I could get a bird that way, maybe. But my turkey days are over now also. The weather did cause some head-aches for them also. sam