2014/06/25 23:29:36
Chris Johnson
Has this ever happened to you? I am unable to find a great number of pics on the interwebs of grooves cut into guides and when
I do they have more often than not been attributed to braided ss wire or something similar. I've read that the early braid was more likely to collect debris that would in turn cut a groove into the guide. But with the number of fishermen that carry cameras you would think the web would be loaded with pics.

I've been using braid for maybe 15 years on a variety of rods from el-cheapos to Loomis' and St Croixs and have never had braid cut a groove in one of the guides. Just wondering what your experience with braid has been.

TIA
CJ
2014/06/26 07:02:47
FishinGuy
I use braid from 3-65lb on probably 30 different rods and have never once had a guide damaged from the braid.
2014/06/26 08:38:24
Chris Johnson
FG, thanks for the response. I keep hearing over and over that it ruins your guides, but havenʻt seen much evidence.
2014/06/26 08:47:28
eyesandgillz
I have had a nick in a guide (probably from a hook) damage my braid but not the other way around....
 
I think you would need REALLY cheap components or a really big fish on a locked down drag (20 plus lbs of drag) on big equipment to do some real damage to guides.  
 
I have seen roller guides blow up/seize on big fish in the gulf making long/fast runs but that wouldn't necessarily be related to the braid.
2014/06/26 08:54:06
FishinGuy
Only thing I heard recently about this actually happening was people who troll a lot. The line, being porous, can pick up dirt and grit from the water and make the line abrasive, cutting guides. But I know people who troll with braid and have never had issues. So to be safe , if you troll a whole lot I'd make sure you use a rod with quality guides. Alconite I think is one of the harder guide materials out there.
2014/06/26 11:23:42
B.A.
Several years ago when I had my tackle shop, was when a lot of these "Super Lines" were being introduced to the public. I had several customers that I replaced guides for. I had started trying to keep a record of what had actually happened to them. The only one that kept popping up was the new Stren "Kevlar" line. Most of the other cases were from people fastening their hooks in the eyelets to hold them. Just putting my two cents in on the topic.
2014/06/26 16:15:23
SaltWaterRocks
Just my 2 cents...I used to build/repair custom fishing rods.  The only guides I ever saw get cuts in them where the old style chrome, stainless and even carbide(the hardest at the time.)  Without fail it was the tip which was the most damaged as it is, by design, the guide which has the highest percent of contact with the line.  Also, hooks will often damage guides or inserts and should NEVER be hooked through guides.  Interestingly enough, this was all with MONO.  When the newer "ceramic" guides(used generically to cover all of the new harder synthetic guides) came on the market, line cuts went to zero; biggest problem at that time was insert cracking.  Then along came superlines.  I have personally been using spider wire since it came on the market(along with Gorilla Braid, Suffix, Tuff Line, etc) and have seen line cutting with guides of all types go back to zero.  That being said, I must agree that if the line is fished in silty water, there is a good chance of abrasive cutting.  I am fastidious about cleaning my equipment after use and have seen no cutting on any of my equipment over the years.  Side note: Inmates in prison sometimes are refused dental floss because they can use it with an abrasive(usually toothpaste) to cut through mild steel bars.  No kidding, my brother was a C.O.  Sooooo...if you read this far, other than maybe learning a fact about prison life, I just reiterated what B.A., FishinGuy and eyesandgillz said...lol!
2014/06/26 16:49:37
Chris Johnson
Thanks everyone, I just hear it over and over again and find it frustrating. Thought Iʻd bring it up for discussion. Iʻve heard something else about a use of kevlar recently but canʻt remember right now.

I guess itʻs one of those fishing urban legends like WD40 on a sponge, or corn is illegal for trout fishing in PA.

I guess if one were to smuggle something into the klink, floss would be much more comfortable than a file.
2014/06/26 23:35:15
Trout About
I have replaced several tips on Fenwick and Berkley rods that were badly grooved.  Only the tip guide.  They are only the rods with the SS304 guides.  The rods with ceramic rings are never a problem.
2014/06/27 05:09:07
Chris Johnson
Thanks TA, I appreciate the info.
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