2013/10/09 16:02:45
SteelSlayer77
PA needs a stream access law similar to Montana, or at least something similar limited to streams that get stocked with publicly funded resources: 
 
"Under the Montana Stream Access Law (1985), the public may use rivers and streams for recreational purposes up to the ordinary high-water mark. Although the law gives recreationists the right to use rivers and streams for water-related recreation, it does not allow them to enter posted lands bordering those streams or to cross private lands to gain access to streams."
 
http://fwp.mt.gov/fishing/guide/access/streamAccess.html
2013/10/09 16:06:36
Screamin Steel
This flat out sucks. Somehow this is Donnie Beaver's fault.
2013/10/09 16:08:20
KJH807
The only one to blame is the state...
 
Creating and marketing an Amusement park of an artificial fishery on private property.... this was bound to happen
 
all posted/private water = nursery water with no fishing
want privacy and tired of the unwashed masses.... there is your fix
2013/10/09 16:13:17
rmcmillen09
gonna have to hit the powerball or just sit home gluing pretty colored macaroni's to tin cans
2013/10/09 16:14:42
Screamin Steel
Maybe we can construct an artificial barrier at rt 5 preventing upstream passage of the artificial tax paid for fish so they cannot be privatized by someone seeking to generate income from our artificial fishery.
2013/10/09 16:15:55
SteelSlayer77
KJH807
The only one to blame is the state...
 
Creating and marketing an Amusement park of an artificial fishery on private property.... this was bound to happen
 
all posted/private water = nursery water with no fishing
want privacy and tired of the unwashed masses.... there is your fix





I like the Montana stream access law better.  If a land owner wants privacy and is tired of the masses, then they should sell their land and move somewhere near by a smaller stream that doesn't get stocked.  The land value increase due to the publicly funded resource put there would more than pay for the cost of relocating. 
 
It wouldn't be nearly as bad as the state coming in and putting a new highway next to their property, or a neighbor selling gas rights to a fracking company who sets up a well on the edge of their property.
2013/10/09 16:26:23
D-nymph
SteelSlayer77
KJH807
The only one to blame is the state...
 
Creating and marketing an Amusement park of an artificial fishery on private property.... this was bound to happen
 
all posted/private water = nursery water with no fishing
want privacy and tired of the unwashed masses.... there is your fix





I like the Montana stream access law better.  If a land owner wants privacy and is tired of the masses, then they should sell their land and move somewhere near by a smaller stream that doesn't get stocked.  The land value increase due to the publicly funded resource put there would more than pay for the cost of relocating. 
 
It wouldn't be nearly as bad as the state coming in and putting a new highway next to their property, or a neighbor selling gas rights to a fracking company who sets up a well on the edge of their property.




KJH's idea is actually feasible, PFBC could declare nursery waters if they wished. 
 
SteelSlayer's idea would affect the entire state & it's just not possible. 
2013/10/09 16:49:58
dano
I believe at one time when we discussed the nursery water option. WCO said that would not be feasible. (can't remember why). PA does use and posts certain sections of certain streams in the ANF as " fish refuge area" with no fishing or wading during a set period of time.
 
Under 58 Pa. Code §67.2 (relating to refuge areas), the Executive Director of the Fish and
Boat Commission (Commission), with the approval of the Commission, may designate waters as
refuge areas to which section 2306 of the Fish and Boat Code, 30 Pa. C.S. §2306 (relating to refuge
areas), shall apply. Section 2306 provides that the Commission may set aside, in its discretion, such
areas as it may judge best as refuge areas in which fishing or entry shall be prohibited for such
periods of time as the Commission prescribes. According to the regulation, the designation of waters
as refuge areas shall be effective upon posting of the waters after publication of a notice that the
waters have been so designated in the Pennsylvania Bulletin.
2013/10/09 16:57:11
KJH807
SteelSlayer77
 
 
I like the Montana stream access law better.  If a land owner wants privacy and is tired of the masses, then they should sell their land and move somewhere near by a smaller stream that doesn't get stocked.  The land value increase due to the publicly funded resource put there would more than pay for the cost of relocating. 
 



thanks for your entry in the "dumbest post of the year 2014" contest... you are the new front runner
congrats and good luck!
2013/10/09 16:59:50
FishinGuy
That would be awesome if these greedy jack****3$ paid a bunch of money to have people post their property to make money off fisher folks, then it got deemed nursery waters. THAT would be true justice.

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