Just got off the phone with my brother and he went out of conn ohio today and said the lake was calm for the most part and he ended up with 17 eyes using the same area and program i used on thursday. He said he would have caught more but they ran out of night crawlers and the cooler was full because of the size of fish and they were very happy being short of there 24 limit for 4 people. He also stated if i had the worms there is no doubt we would have limited. Good luck guys.