2012/11/03 19:28:53
Clint S
Not a real report , but more of an experience today.  I would say a decent crowd down there today.  I was able to find a decent spot fishing wise , but  I just happened to luck out in the company.  I fished next to a guy tried to" help" several people.   He was quite nice and shared what he was using and tried to teach me his technique.   Here it was:   Never cast up stream always cast straight across from you or downstream a bit,  keep  all slack out of the line never let your fly line touch the water.   To cast bring your line in to almost to the leader and cast out "let the lead take the line out" he told me.   I politely said thanks and kept fishing after a few moments he came over again and said "would you like me to show you how"   I humored him and said sure.  He took my pole and attempted to cast and said " here's your problem you don't have enough weight on"   he even offered me some.   I politely declined and politely told him that I was close to the 1/8th ounce limit and that's why I cast UPSTREAM a bit and MENDED my line once or twice to get the fly down.   I also said that with that much weight it was tough to roll cast and if the weight propels the line  "technically"  it was against the law. I also told him of the new 1/8 ounce rule.    He looked at me as if I had 2 heads.   Problem is that the guy was really trying to be nice and "help" me and I did appreciate it and was very polite throughout the whole thing, but he had no clue to the regs.  He was not a blatant snagger  (although a fish he landed was foul hooked)  just C and Ding and using too much weight.  After I told him the regs he left me alone and started "helping" another guy .   I think many folks did not read the new fishing reg because from
 what I saw only about 50% of the guys down there were below the weight limit.
2012/11/03 19:53:34
Lucky13
Clint,
 
Nice new Picture!
 
I have a simple solution.  Stay out of the zones (I'm assuming you were there, because I don't think the 1/8 applies on the rest of the river, but I'll go check!).  There are a lot of places downstream, that will have fish around, and less people (I hope, for next weekend).
 
L13
2012/11/03 20:02:28
Clint S
That's the one from Wednesday,  I wish we had gotten all of the jaw.  I may get that one framed.
Lucky yes the LFZ and  I sometimes do venture out , but due to the rain I wanted an easy exit strategy.    There are usually fish there and it's a good place for a novice like me to hone my skills with a good shot at hooking up .  Honestly, I sometimes  don't mind rubbin' elbows with folks.  I like seeing the fish jump, seeing how people cast and drift  and peeking at what they are using.
Yes, the 1/8 is in the zones only.
2012/11/03 20:06:47
Lucky13
There is definitelty something to be said for knowing the fish are around, even if they are not currently on your line!
 
L13
2012/11/03 23:00:01
fichy
Same thing earlier this week  in the Upper, Clint.  I must admit there was a number of guys, good fishermen all, casting upstream, pinning their drifts with quick roll casts and  fishing within the weight  limits at 900, let alone less than half that flow. Some swung  flies. Everyone hooked up at some point.   I don't mind the zones when they are relatively free of crowds, but I'll go elsewhere when it's a zoo.  I'm done fighting for my little rock.  I think you can start trusting your water reading skills.  You do as well on the rest of the river as you do where they're supposedly stacked up.  Since you'll be using some  brownie  eggs, I'm guessing it won't be the same place tomorrow. Hope you have a great one. x2 on the avatar pic.
 
2012/11/03 23:01:17
uglyfish
Can be frustrating but always keeps you on your toes when others are catching around you. Was hoping to get up today but been fighting a cold all week so I'm shooting for next week.
2012/11/04 13:37:17
YankeeAngler
Would 1/8 oz. of weight added be about equal to 1 #5 lead and or #4 Tin?
A fly freind of mine said that was approx. correct. Anyone know for sure? 
I called a local shop and they said they didnt have a scale.
On a humorous note:
Do I weigh the leader-tippet, swivel, knot, hook and also, weigh the fly when it is dry or the material is wet?
Best Fish's,
Randy
2012/11/04 13:59:05
hot tuna
here is a chart for dummies like me:
Split shot size 
Tin Weight                           Lead Weight
#4 1/10 (.1) oz                   1/8 (.125) oz
#5 1/13 (.077) oz               3/32 (.093) oz
#7 1/22 (.045) oz               1/16 (.062) oz
#3/0 1/40 (.025) oz            1/32 (.031) oz
 
Only a weighted leader or fly counts towards the total of 1/8
Don't think it's all that difficult to stay within the regs of the fly zones..
 
I fished the UFZ once a 3,000 flow using 3- #3 and caught fish... Where do you think they will be hanging ?
2012/11/04 14:06:44
pafisher
That's a handy chart HT.Since I rarely would go above 2 #7 lead on my line I guess I'll pass the test.Now I've got to add the #7 and 5 lead to see if I'm illegal.Does anyone think they are going to watch this closely when they miss all the slashing and ripping down river?
2012/11/04 14:24:48
hot tuna
Jack,
I certainly hope they do.. At least make an attempt to rid some "dredgers" from the all mighty petting zoo's we both so much like..
 
 
 

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