2019/10/21 17:52:00
hot tuna
Of course I can't keep my big mouth shut when a discussion is involved. I'd like to call this a discussion until closed.
I'm still in shock and awe of feelings towards what a privatized fishery is doing to the public . I heard words and read print before about this subject.
Mandatory rotation : My understanding was it's a great thing for voluntary rotation, it was not popular to make it mandatory.
Costs to fish the SR: This is not nova Scotia and in some cases better than Alaska as public fishing goes. Big corporations are taking over our publicly funded fishery.

Its these things I don't understand:
As anyone knows in today it's a dog eat dog, I want it now daddy world. Unless you figure out how to circumvent every single tax, fee, surcharge or bill that arrives from the wallet.
Taking more , regulating more or making more laws has surely not helped to support the future. Now , now, of course there are extremists that will say we just can't let them burn more coal but I'm talking straight forward outdoor recreation and rights.
It blew my mind as I actually endorsed this section for years until it got ridiculously capitalized.

I don't even remember when I first bought a season pass in the section off question but I do remember the costs and increases.
Parking was $5.00 at first charge , my first season pass was $75.00. My last was $750.00 plus a surcharge. My last parking fee was a fantastic day catching coho at $65.00 in 2009 or 10. I haven't back since. I believe it's now 75-85 on weekends, if you get a ticket. $150-175 for 2 days in a vastly populated river is outta my radar. I'd rather spend that money elsewhere in a nice comfy place exploring free water.
My son has asked to go salmon fishing in a pay to play area as such because he wants nothing to do with people around him. I explained its nothing more than fantastic salmon water and people that take your money. The show is the same and anyone at anything will just come and walk in front of you and snag a fish but just not on steroids as other sections. He declined..
Thing that hurts most is anyone would support privatized regulation that may impact the entire state regulations

I also agree, the c& r needs to be expanded below rt 52. I would like to see it down to Ellis. Any tackle welcome below 52 but c&r only.
It would surely spread out the floaters below the lower zone and keep drift boats moving.
Not sold on a ff only though. Can do that anytime one wishes.

Lastly.
The eagles killed the concert scene by charging $80.00 and up for a farewell tour. It was unprecedented prior to pay that amount. Now it's the cheap bargain.
Reason I pay $15.00 and $1.50 a Busch can to see Lukas Nelson and POTR play in a dive bar instead of $400.00 VIP seating for them to play with Neil Young.
Just trying to keep it real
Peace and tuna
2019/10/21 18:02:51
fichy
 At least there aren't people here to physically threaten you anymore if you persist in having the last word.   The SR is a unique situation. I don't think policy there dictates what happens elsewhere in this state by any means. Lucky didn't include the Neversink Club in his list of exclusionary properties,  I  use to sneak into it as a teenager.  Private Idahos have been around for a long time,  just as Lucky said. The DSR is far more accessible and NOT a private club. Maybe they can set some examples for the rest of the non-paying water.
 
2019/10/21 18:24:16
Tracker12
Heading to fish the DSR four 4 days starting WED.  Well worth the price and I don't have much problem dealing with the daily rotation on the meadow.  I'll just fish the fly rod those days.  Price is well worth not having to deal with the crowds and I catch and release so no biggy for me. 
2019/10/21 18:53:47
hot tuna
fichy
 At least there aren't people here to physically threaten you anymore if you persist in having the last word.   The SR is a unique situation. I don't think policy there dictates what happens elsewhere in this state by any means. Lucky didn't include the Neversink Club in his list of exclusionary properties,  I  use to sneak into it as a teenager.  Private Idahos have been around for a long time,  just as Lucky said. The DSR is far more accessible and NOT a private club. Maybe they can set some examples for the rest of the non-paying water.
 
ui

I dig it and thankful .
My wife has no idea on what I spend in new gear.. these days, it's about zero as it gets , only gas money and time.
I had a very good friend called neversink. I get that elite group as well. Still driftboats drift. Our gun clubs dissolved years ago in flavor of corporate elite.
I totally agree, their section is far more appealing but I don't understand the cost of freedom. That's what alienate me and the free folks.
Not everyone is a hogwash slob and it saddens me I'd have to pay a private club to play nice or so...
If special interests set standards for the rest of the state, I'm doomed.
No longer can I walk on some hard water use a peice of equipment , raise and harvest what my families have used for generations.
This seems zoning 101.
Buckle up...
2019/10/21 19:07:16
hot tuna
Tracker12
Heading to fish the DSR four 4 days starting WED.  Well worth the price and I don't have much problem dealing with the daily rotation on the meadow.  I'll just fish the fly rod those days.  Price is well worth not having to deal with the crowds and I catch and release so no biggy for me. 


Hey tracker.
I hope you have a great time.
Maybe you'll find some nice salmon to play with also.
I switched totally to trout buy October 2nd when I fished there with good results.
May your lines be tight and hands smell like fish .
2019/10/21 19:08:29
r3g3
One thing I really liked about Nova Scotia was that ALL water is public.
Wherever it is ya can walk across fields or woods if necessary to get to it and its OK.
Everyone knows it and everyone can do it so its OK- never even once heard a bad word in several years up there fishing- on the contrary all were polite and nice. 
Keeps down any crowds too.
2019/10/21 19:31:36
hot tuna
Wasn't nova Scotia province beats, rotation and gillies mandatory.
Never been myself but so told from others
2019/10/21 19:58:41
troutbum21
r3g3- I honeymooned in Nova Scotia 1982.  As I recall most it not all the rivers were closed when we were there because of low numbers of returning salmon (late August/early September).  In Canada they shut rivers down on a moments notice.  Imagine if they did that on the Lake Ontario tributaries, they'd have mass riots on their hands.
 
2019/10/21 20:08:43
hot tuna
From my co workers account, he pays to play. These places are in the thousands.
He visits places like nova Scotia, Scatatcwan, Idaho, Kansas montana, Alaska and the likes.
He actually disembarked on most NY pay populated waters years ago in favor of our public lesser places here
While I don't agree with the money he spends to sit in a tree stand for a week to shoot a 22 point buck and pass on 10pts regularly in neg 25 degrees on the flatland of Canada( non penned)
I do heed his experiences and advice as well.
2019/10/21 20:10:19
fichy
No, that's New Brunswick  and the Gaspe'.  I fished the Margaree and loved it. Only caught a grilse, but I did it on my own. Also caught sea run brookies you had to back pack to. Nova Scotia is wonderful. That's current info, as I'm planning a trip back next summer. You can hire a guide if you'd like to get a leg up, but you can flail at will,  with a license, of course. 

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