To those who PM'd me about going ice fishing, i'm happy to share some knowledge and have a good time, but PLEASE, if we get to finally get out there, don't show up without 2 things - ICE CLEATS so you don't bust your head open on the ice, and ICE ESCAPES - 2 handles with spikes that go around your neck or through your sleves, so if you fall in, you can pull yourself out. i hope to never need them, and always go on safe ice, but safe is better than dead...