I'm aware of the Stripers that are [or were ] mounted at Richters'. Dave said they "came up from the Shenango". With all that I've read from you guys, I'm beginning to doubt myself on what I saw. And no, I don't eat mushrooms, peyote or anything else that would induce visual hallucinations,lol! Late this year in the fall I was talking to s agroup of kayakers and one of them said he knew where I was talking about, the that doesn't prove anything and I'm not implying that it does. With all of this fair weather we've been having, I guess I'll have to drive there and shoot pictures as best as I can get them. As posted earlier, that doesn't prove what I shot is where I'm saying it is, but also, I wouldn't BS anybody. If it's there, it's there. Spoonchucker cracked me up with his comment "Nay" after I wrote about naysayers and troutguy alos with "pics or it didn't happen" which I also commented on. Overall, you guys have been helpful in offering possible explanations and it's appreciated. It's also appreciated that the comments weren't condescending, argumentative, attacking etc... . I was expecting at least a few of those.