2013/03/19 10:54:06
fichy
Thanks for the pattern . Bear. Very cool.   The fellow that I saw using them, I've seen numerous times, as he's a long term resident of Altmar and fishes a lot.  He told me they weren't something he uses regularly, being a pain to collect. A friend had given him some, so he gladly  used them.  Once again, I have to plead ignorance, I'm just relating an observation.
 I recently  tied a bunch of Mike Mercer's dark  poxy back stones for a friend to use on the Trinity in California in size 6 and they worked well. That river has many similarities with the SR.  Those are a Skwala stone though, not a Dobson.  I tied a bunch for myself, too.  I have fun  knowing jack squat about fisheries sometimes, and just winging it.  I've spent  a bunch of time on the water teaching people to fly fish,  sometimes that carries over and I say way too much .  I'm very much an outsider here, with little knowledge,  so I'll  go back to being quiet.
2013/03/19 11:02:30
bigbear2010
they work for steel too
when he was first playing with the pattern i took some up to the SR and wacked them in april with the proto types
 
gulp has a plastic version that is ok....but these are good stuff ;)
2013/03/19 11:03:15
dimebrite
Just one more thought on large bait versus small bait.... those browns that would hammer large helgramite patterns at night were the same browns that would sip size 18 sulfur emergers during the day while monster green drake snow storm hatch was in effect... trout will be trout and steelhead are trout too ;)
2013/03/19 12:25:58
Lucky13
I never pass up the cocktail peanuts and shrimp cocktail even if I'm having primerib for a maincourse. (Which may have something to do with the change in wader size LOL!)
 
L13
2013/03/19 13:51:46
retired guy
Does anybody market  an imitation Helgramite ?? - Have used the scented imitation sandworms with great results in Salt.
 Personally prefer large natural live garden hackle in Spring for drops.
  Flys are nice but I'll opt for a real natural bait whenever I can.
2013/03/19 14:56:52
Lucky13
2013/03/19 15:03:07
pafisher
Lucky,that's a good looking imitation.I wonder what the scent is and how long it lasts. I imagine if a scentless fly catches fish that should really catch them!
2013/03/19 16:52:15
retired guy
Thanks Lucky- especically like the biodegradable part.
2013/03/20 19:29:42
troutbum21
bigbear2010,
Just wondering if you could post a picture of the hellgramite pattern.
Thanks
Gerry 

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