2013/06/19 09:31:22
neaphyte
I have been down the road of "the Salmon R swing" And with all due respect it's alot like lining Sockeyes. It's fun, but not fair. Now I have heard of some guys are stripping streamers. I guess the method is to find a pod  of kings and get dierctly above them and drop the fly in front of them. Then strip and drop it back, strip and drop. several times. Occasionally,  a King will grab it on the drop. Anybody out there using this method? With success? Without snagging most fish on the gillplate?  All input appreciated.
2013/06/19 10:30:59
pafisher
I have had a lot of success with streamers of various types on salmon.However I catch most on the swing/drift and many times I'm fishing water where the fish are not visible and my hook is IN the mouth,not outside.I find besides the presentation color is important,some days it is one color and if you don't have that color you won't have much action.
2013/06/19 10:51:21
troutbum21
I would say "swing" yes, "strip" no.  DEC will be all over that like a monkey trying to f--- a football.  You'll be walking a very fine line if you decide to employ that method especially during silly season.
 
2013/06/19 12:24:36
hot tuna
Personally I love swinging streamers to kings.. With that said , it's been a long time until last season since I fished anywhere but dsr for salmon..
Down there I had best results sight fishing them .. Big bright flies, on the swing and watch them move to the fly..
Last season basically none of that worked for me up river.. Id watch them turn and look or move outta the way..
Streamer patterns that have worked well in the past on upper river were crayfish , olive buggers or giant stones.. Of course I was ill prepared.. Seems they must be drifted tight to the bottom and in their face to get a bite..
Thats just my sight observations..
Now as Jack the King master has said, I watched him put on clinics fishing as he described..
I will follow his lead this season :) 
2013/06/19 14:47:27
bigbear2010
Swing them the whole way across the tail of the pool.
2013/06/19 16:03:00
twobob
As thick as theyare in the SR I never contemplated stripping streamers.
I like dead drifting streamerts down to them and letting the line tighten and swing just as its about to reach them causing it to speed up and swim up and away from them.
Of course I haven't fished for them a dozen times in the past 20 years and I only expect 1 or 2 to chase it down per day.
More than that is banner headlines for me.
 
And as Tunesa says I fish as low on the river as I can find an "undisturbed"
holding run where the fish are still not fully gun shy..
 
2013/06/20 00:14:53
retired guy
Have watched male Kings 'nip and  spit' very quickly a number of times while spawning. Generally when trying to swing around them and get to Hos or Steel below the beds and commonly on blue sacs.
  Sometimes the initial drift is too short and gets in front of some males directly below the spawners and they do the quick sac squishing with the very front of their toothy mouth if it passes close to them , kinda neat to watch. Dont think I could ever be quick enough to hook one like that as they are VERY quick and have never hooked one doing that on the looser line passing by.
  Kinda think this may be why sacs so often come up squished after a  quick mid drift ' bottom bump" in deeper darker waters..
  The times I have been able to watch this show have been late in the season when the other species are there and the Kings have dwindled to the point where not so many other fisherfolks are around ( calmer fishes).
 That strip and dip method may work on those fish but as said will be confused with snagging despit the intent.
  On the flip side there is so much blatant snagging going on I cant see why not try it in a secluded area.  Personally have never seen them hit while trailing my offering at the end of a drift- only at the swing or a bit before as the offering lifts..
 Good advice on the downriver option - they get spooky and shut down all too often as they move on up.
2013/06/20 10:52:47
neaphyte
Thanks guys. All good stuff. My dilemna is this. Have not fished the Salmon R in Sept/Oct for about 10-12 yrs.  But my son is now 12 and wants to go Salmon fishing.  Steelhead aren't good enough I guess. As I remember it stripping streamers  did not seem like an option then and as some of you pointed out it is still a bad idea. I would like to think we can catch some fish on the swing and that dead drift to a tightline swing sounds like it might work, kind of a wet-fly swing to trout. My question now is this does it pay to fish the DSR, will you find more room there than in the rest of the river below Pineville.  Will guys give you enough room to swing?
2013/06/20 11:07:14
hot tuna
While I cringe a little saying this, the dsr would be a great place to take your son for salmon.. He will get in free and you will always find an area to fish without a hassle of crowds.. It really is perfect salmon / streamer water down there..  Just walk away from the popular hole, fish some broken transition water and hold on..
 
That said, If you have no intent of keeping fish, we found spots in the fly zone completely empty of ppl and plenty of fish..
Jack put on quite a clinic with those kings up there but as said I had the wrong flies.. Maybe you could pry some of his secrets outta him :)
Good luck and have fun
2013/06/20 12:47:37
neaphyte
I have no intention of keeping any fish. And Jack would be Pafisher?? Forgive my ignorance.  The only thing I'm interested in is how he goes about it.  I'll figure out the where. Thanks guys.

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