The geese at Pyme, like in other areas, has increased dramatically over many years so much so that they have been considered to be a nuisance with all of their crap accumulating everywhere, including golf courses. I don't golf, but can understand how that would create tensions for the golfers and also for the families with young children that want to utilize the beaches. If I remember this correctly from many years ago, that was why a special season was declared for Canada Geese, to help control their numbers. I don't how many hunters participated in the special hunt, but it seems like there are more geese than ever and like many issues, there isn't one blanket answer. It's multi-factorial. To paraphrase Coldfront, I too prefer the "incessant squawking of the gulls as an early morning alarm clock over the noise of the inner city". Also as Cold has stated, Try as Man might, Nature will never be controlled completely and humans need to learn to compromise... . It reminds me of when I all to frequently hear there is an alligator problem in Florida and they need to be killed. There isn't an alligator problem, it's a people problem. Man has drained thousands of acres of canals and waterways, in essence destroying their homes that have existed for hundreds of years in order that we may create new waterways and build condos near the water. The 'gators are simply looking for a place to live, places where they were evicted from. There are many more examples of this, but I'll stop here as although still being tied to the original post, it could easily get lengthy and divert. Well stated Cold about humans needing to learn to compromise. I never considered your last statement as being directed towards anyone, but simply as you wrote , just a general statement. I hope that I wasn't coming across as attempting to control nature or being offensive in general. No worries.