2020/02/08 08:39:37
Lucky13
I have fished the Battenkill.  And I have seen the numbers from back when I fished it and it was truly a waste of time to fish, and what it is now, and it is improving, both on the Vermont side and the NYS side.  Now, watch yer tone, or I'll go crying to the moderators!
2020/02/08 14:36:40
hot tuna
L-13. I think what we, at least me , are trying to say is we don't believe and sometimes disagree with every piece of paper that gets pushed across the table as real. I think your getting flack because you seem to agree this as word of gospel and discount the people who dispute these papers from experiences.
I've fished the battenkill once or twice too but I'm not by any means to comment on the fishery. Instead only take the words of an experienced angler not a report on paper that may include a special interests group or a few anglers that reported to the dec they caught fish on their trip.
Same goes for streams I frequent.
We've discussed the great lakes fishery in length. There's good reason I haven't visited there in 2 years to tributary fish. Yes, I miss the lake fishing because its been a great game in town now.
You yourself have not posted anything promising on the tributaries themselves so am I missing something ? It's going to get very interesting to see what happens in the next 5 years if I'm still alive due to these paper pushers cutting stocks and claiming natural reproduction is the way

Of course I know the SR hatchery doesn't raise Atlantic salmon but I also know it dumped a bunch of funded money to watch and see how many Atlantic salmon returned to the hatchery via cameras , monitors and hardware. There was a huge promotion of promise when 4 Atlantic's were captured on camera. How's that equipment paying back now to the public ?

The only dispute of posting a discussion to the moderator would be posting stupid YouTube videos of a huey spraying gunfire on a village. If you can't tell the difference then shame on you
2020/02/09 11:02:04
fichy
 
  Can't match that kind of arrogance.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



 
 
 
 
 
 
 



 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 





 
 
2020/02/17 17:01:39
hot tuna
How convenient with nys asking for billions in hatchery improvements, they put out a press release about the Rome hatchery, again. This time zebra mussels. Last time whirling disease.
Seriously....
When was the altmar hatchery constructed ? 1980 ? Small time frame in the grand scheme of buildings wouldn't you say ?
I'm just feed up with data collecting and money grabbing from our state regarding fisheries and license fees.
People need to get their head out of the sand .
If it wasn't for sportsman clubs and real people doing their part, it would be a bigger mess then we are heading towards.
2020/04/16 19:10:17
hot tuna
So I'm gonna drag this one out.
First, the spring lake trawls showed EXCELLENT baitfish abundance in all year classes. The west end had an excellent smelt population as well.
I've seen the info and pictures/ video.
Second: with nys completely broke, does anyone see these Capitol hatchery projects actually taking place ?
Third: with the Rome and other trout hatcheries contaminated by zebra mussels, is there a future for stream and brook trout ?
Lastly : is there an excuse to come forth ?

When the lake guys are finally allowed to charter again, the fish will be plenty and snappy, not just because of shinny lures out of starvation.
From these years to come following, there will be no snappy fish to chase lures because the fewer left will have a smorgasbord of abundant bait.

Tough times ahead folks
2020/04/17 07:56:49
fichy
 Ah yes, the catch-22.   Can you imagine trying to shut down silly season?  On a local to me note, even though the Battenkill ,which has very few holdovers  and is not stocked, it is  still getting high traffic.  Since the stocking is done with  rod and gun club volunteers, I wonder if it will or can even happen.  Bass fishermen are out in force, too.  Closed ramps will curtail that. I agree with HT, hatcheries are going to have a budgetary  crisis of epic proportions. Andy Cuomo's never seen a fish without sauce on it, putting the axe to what we love won't bother him a bit. The DEC recently destroyed about a mile or more of fishing area  I've used for 30 years to implement Andy's Empire Trail.  He's all about paving.
2020/04/17 08:55:29
troutbum21
Fichy, your last line reminded me of this tune. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWwUJH70ubM
 
2020/04/17 17:20:59
fichy
Been in my repertoire since the 70's, TB. It's a good fit.
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